I added my vote to the JIRA https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24485 - 
you can do the same and then it will be up to INFRA to request a formal VOTE.

Jan

> 21. apr. 2023 kl. 17:01 skrev Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
> <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com>:
> 
> I don't think we need a vote. We should just negotiate with INFRA to do the
> sensible thing.
> 
> On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 7:56 pm Justin Sweeney, <justin.sweene...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Just to close the loop on this, should I kick off a vote as a new thread to
>> the dev group or should that be kicked off by a PMC member? I don't see the
>> 3 day period as a blocker here for the release.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 7:15 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 24 hours are enough to cover all timezones on earth. Only those on other
>>> planets need more time.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 4:42 am Jan Høydahl, <jan....@cominvent.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bureaucracy sure, but needless? Don't think so. How else can we make
>>>> decisions across time zones and national holidays that ensures every
>> PMC
>>>> member has a chance to vote? Of course, in this matter it would
>> probably
>>> be
>>>> possible to persuade INFRA to let Solr "inherit" Lucene's policy
>>>> immediately, and then change it back, only if a PMC vote demands it...
>> :)
>>>> 
>>>> Jan
>>>> 
>>>>> 21. apr. 2023 kl. 01:01 skrev Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>>>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vote and 3 days of wait!? This whole Apache process feels like a
>>> needless
>>>>> bureaucracy, stuck in the twentieth century. If such a vote is a
>> strict
>>>>> necessity, I think we should also get a vote on whether to stick with
>>>>> Apache.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 3:52 am Justin Sweeney, <
>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe I can continue the release for most of the steps before
>> this
>>>> will
>>>>>> be a blocking issue. If as a result of the vote, it is decided not
>> to
>>>> grant
>>>>>> write permissions to non-PMC committers, I'd just need additional
>>>> support
>>>>>> from a PMC member to complete the 9.2.1 release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 6:08 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ah, I never knew this was the default. I see no reason to change
>> our
>>>>>>> release practice, so guess we can do a proper VOTE and wait 3 days
>>> for
>>>> it
>>>>>>> to complete before the release can happen. I suppose several RM
>> steps
>>>> can
>>>>>>> happen before this is a blocker, or?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 22:24 skrev Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org
>>> :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ahhh I think I know the issue. We haven't had a non-pmc committer
>>> do a
>>>>>>>> release since the Lucene/Solr split. I guess Lucene was setup to
>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>> this, but by default Apache doesn't allow it, so Solr doesn't have
>>> it
>>>>>>>> enabled now.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As per the JIRA infra can do this. Should we get a PMC vote on
>> this?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Houston
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Houston Putman <
>> hous...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I commented.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:59 PM Justin Sweeney <
>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've created an Infra ticket here:
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24485. It would
>>>> probably
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> useful if a few PMC members can comment support for it, I am not
>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>> what an approval process looks like for this.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM Jan Høydahl <
>>> jan....@cominvent.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to give svn release permission to all committers!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jan Høydahl
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 18:01 skrev Houston Putman <
>>> hous...@apache.org
>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it definitely seems like a change in policy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin already can't add his GPG key to the KEYS file, so we
>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to be a blocker now and again when the release vote
>>> passes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The infra page does say "*By default*, only PMC/PPMC members
>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the dist/release directories." So it seems like we
>> can
>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>> that for solr if we want to. I have no problem reverting to
>> the
>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>> permission scheme, since committers will not be able to do
>>>> releases
>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:38 AM Jan Høydahl <
>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has not been a blocker before, so I’d just proceed with
>> the
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask again if it becomes a problem. Non-pmc committers have
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RM before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan Høydahl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 17:19 skrev Justin Sweeney <
>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While working on the 9.2.1 release process, I've hit a bit
>>> of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocker. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks like you must be a PMC member to push to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/solr (based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html#normal and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1682001736232839
>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This might primarily be a question for @David Smiley <
>>>>>>>>>>> dsmi...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed his slack status is on vacation so wanted to raise
>> it
>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we modify the permissions to allow any Solr committer
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> push to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that SVN repo or should we restrict releases to PMC members?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming I can open an Infra ticket to change
>>> permissions,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely require some approvals beyond myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:21 AM Justin Sweeney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, feel free to go ahead and merge that in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:18 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have time to merge the following, please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16741
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ishan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:37, Justin Sweeney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for merging that, I'm just getting started along
>> the
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process, had to get a gpg key setup but should be moving
>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:03 AM Jan Høydahl <
>>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merged.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. apr. 2023 kl. 16:10 skrev Houston Putman <
>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that's a good one to include.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:37 AM Jan Høydahl <
>>>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there still time to back-port
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16755 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. apr. 2023 kl. 17:33 skrev Justin Sweeney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! I'll get that process started on
>>> Monday,
>>>>>>>>>> 4/17.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:31 AM Houston Putman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'd be awesome, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No documentation really (and if you find any it will
>>> be
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out-of-date).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release process is all managed by the "release
>>>>>> wizard"
>>>>>>>>>> (a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Jan).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you can start it by:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Check out the "branch_9_2" branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. (install python3/pip3 if you don't have them
>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. pip3 install -r
>> dev-tools/scripts/requirements.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ./dev-tools/scripts/releaseWizard.py --init
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can start/stop the wizard at any time, the state
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> saved.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest that you do the entire release process on
>> one
>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching computers is very hard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also start the wizard before you want to actually do
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial steps that are meant to be done days before
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There will be two particular snags since you aren't
>> a
>>>> PMC
>>>>>>>>>>> member,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will come up early and the releaseWizard will prompt
>>> you
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions, do not be afraid to ask.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:22 AM Justin Sweeney <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 If you need a volunteer to execute the release,
>> I
>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that next week. Are there docs available for the
>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my first time through?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:10 PM Jan Høydahl <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. apr. 2023 kl. 15:51 skrev Houston Putman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know we just released 9.2 around 2-3 weeks ago,
>>> but
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to need a bugfix release soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see the list of bugs here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR/versions/12353017
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should discuss starting the release
>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of these bugs are pretty bad (Particularly
>> the
>>>>>> SSL
>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLR-16728 <
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16728
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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