I added my vote to the JIRA https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24485 - you can do the same and then it will be up to INFRA to request a formal VOTE.
Jan > 21. apr. 2023 kl. 17:01 skrev Ishan Chattopadhyaya > <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com>: > > I don't think we need a vote. We should just negotiate with INFRA to do the > sensible thing. > > On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 7:56 pm Justin Sweeney, <justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Just to close the loop on this, should I kick off a vote as a new thread to >> the dev group or should that be kicked off by a PMC member? I don't see the >> 3 day period as a blocker here for the release. >> >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 7:15 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < >> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> 24 hours are enough to cover all timezones on earth. Only those on other >>> planets need more time. >>> >>> On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 4:42 am Jan Høydahl, <jan....@cominvent.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Bureaucracy sure, but needless? Don't think so. How else can we make >>>> decisions across time zones and national holidays that ensures every >> PMC >>>> member has a chance to vote? Of course, in this matter it would >> probably >>> be >>>> possible to persuade INFRA to let Solr "inherit" Lucene's policy >>>> immediately, and then change it back, only if a PMC vote demands it... >> :) >>>> >>>> Jan >>>> >>>>> 21. apr. 2023 kl. 01:01 skrev Ishan Chattopadhyaya < >>>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Vote and 3 days of wait!? This whole Apache process feels like a >>> needless >>>>> bureaucracy, stuck in the twentieth century. If such a vote is a >> strict >>>>> necessity, I think we should also get a vote on whether to stick with >>>>> Apache. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 3:52 am Justin Sweeney, < >>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I believe I can continue the release for most of the steps before >> this >>>> will >>>>>> be a blocking issue. If as a result of the vote, it is decided not >> to >>>> grant >>>>>> write permissions to non-PMC committers, I'd just need additional >>>> support >>>>>> from a PMC member to complete the 9.2.1 release. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 6:08 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah, I never knew this was the default. I see no reason to change >> our >>>>>>> release practice, so guess we can do a proper VOTE and wait 3 days >>> for >>>> it >>>>>>> to complete before the release can happen. I suppose several RM >> steps >>>> can >>>>>>> happen before this is a blocker, or? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 22:24 skrev Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org >>> : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ahhh I think I know the issue. We haven't had a non-pmc committer >>> do a >>>>>>>> release since the Lucene/Solr split. I guess Lucene was setup to >>>>>> support >>>>>>>> this, but by default Apache doesn't allow it, so Solr doesn't have >>> it >>>>>>>> enabled now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As per the JIRA infra can do this. Should we get a PMC vote on >> this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Houston >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Houston Putman < >> hous...@apache.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I commented. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:59 PM Justin Sweeney < >>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've created an Infra ticket here: >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24485. It would >>>> probably >>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> useful if a few PMC members can comment support for it, I am not >>>> sure >>>>>>>>>> what an approval process looks like for this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM Jan Høydahl < >>> jan....@cominvent.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 to give svn release permission to all committers! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jan Høydahl >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 18:01 skrev Houston Putman < >>> hous...@apache.org >>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah it definitely seems like a change in policy. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Justin already can't add his GPG key to the KEYS file, so we >>> know >>>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>>>>> going to be a blocker now and again when the release vote >>> passes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The infra page does say "*By default*, only PMC/PPMC members >>> have >>>>>>>>>> write >>>>>>>>>>>> access to the dist/release directories." So it seems like we >> can >>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>>>> that for solr if we want to. I have no problem reverting to >> the >>>> old >>>>>>>>>>>> permission scheme, since committers will not be able to do >>>> releases >>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:38 AM Jan Høydahl < >>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It has not been a blocker before, so I’d just proceed with >> the >>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask again if it becomes a problem. Non-pmc committers have >>>>>> certainly >>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>> RM before. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan Høydahl >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 17:19 skrev Justin Sweeney < >>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While working on the 9.2.1 release process, I've hit a bit >>> of a >>>>>>>>>>>>> blocker. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks like you must be a PMC member to push to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/solr (based on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html#normal and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1682001736232839 >>>> ). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This might primarily be a question for @David Smiley < >>>>>>>>>>> dsmi...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed his slack status is on vacation so wanted to raise >> it >>>>>> here >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should we modify the permissions to allow any Solr committer >>> to >>>>>>>>>> push to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that SVN repo or should we restrict releases to PMC members? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming I can open an Infra ticket to change >>> permissions, >>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely require some approvals beyond myself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:21 AM Justin Sweeney < >>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, feel free to go ahead and merge that in. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:18 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Justin, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have time to merge the following, please? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16741 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ishan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:37, Justin Sweeney < >>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for merging that, I'm just getting started along >> the >>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process, had to get a gpg key setup but should be moving >>>>>> today. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:03 AM Jan Høydahl < >>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. apr. 2023 kl. 16:10 skrev Houston Putman < >>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that's a good one to include. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:37 AM Jan Høydahl < >>>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there still time to back-port >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16755 ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. apr. 2023 kl. 17:33 skrev Justin Sweeney < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! I'll get that process started on >>> Monday, >>>>>>>>>> 4/17. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:31 AM Houston Putman < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'd be awesome, thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No documentation really (and if you find any it will >>> be >>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out-of-date). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release process is all managed by the "release >>>>>> wizard" >>>>>>>>>> (a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Jan). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you can start it by: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Check out the "branch_9_2" branch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. (install python3/pip3 if you don't have them >>>>>> downloaded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. pip3 install -r >> dev-tools/scripts/requirements.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ./dev-tools/scripts/releaseWizard.py --init >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can start/stop the wizard at any time, the state >>> is >>>>>>>>>> saved. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest that you do the entire release process on >> one >>>>>>>>>> computer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching computers is very hard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also start the wizard before you want to actually do >>> the >>>>>>>>>>> release. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial steps that are meant to be done days before >>> the >>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There will be two particular snags since you aren't >> a >>>> PMC >>>>>>>>>>> member, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will come up early and the releaseWizard will prompt >>> you >>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions, do not be afraid to ask. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:22 AM Justin Sweeney < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 If you need a volunteer to execute the release, >> I >>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that next week. Are there docs available for the >>>> release >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my first time through? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:10 PM Jan Høydahl < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. apr. 2023 kl. 15:51 skrev Houston Putman < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know we just released 9.2 around 2-3 weeks ago, >>> but >>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to need a bugfix release soon. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see the list of bugs here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR/versions/12353017 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should discuss starting the release >>>> process >>>>>>>>>> early >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of these bugs are pretty bad (Particularly >> the >>>>>> SSL >>>>>>> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLR-16728 < >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16728 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>> dev-h...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> dev-h...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> dev-h...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org