I see no reason for a vote as there is no change to vote on relative to how this project has done things prior to the project split, and we didn't vote for it to be different for the project split.
Anyway, it looks like the change is done now. Separate point: I don't think this is a big deal that a PMC member might be needed for particular steps. Many of us should be happy to help (certainly myself included). ~ David Smiley Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 6:15 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > In this particular matter, there's absolutely no need. Anyway, I think it > is water under the bridge now, unless someone from PMC comes back a few > days later and, bizzarely, votes against letting committers push to the SVN > server (something we've always allowed in the past, before 9.0). > > On Sat, 22 Apr, 2023, 12:28 am Mike Drob, <md...@mdrob.com> wrote: > > > Eid Mubarak to all who celebrate and happy Friday to everybody else. And > > happy weekend to those who want to rest and not check emails constantly. > > And hey, wouldn't you know it, the next workday isn't until 72 hours > away! > > Let's try to be accommodating to all of our friends, yes? > > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 6:15 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > > ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 24 hours are enough to cover all timezones on earth. Only those on > other > > > planets need more time. > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 4:42 am Jan Høydahl, <jan....@cominvent.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Bureaucracy sure, but needless? Don't think so. How else can we make > > > > decisions across time zones and national holidays that ensures every > > PMC > > > > member has a chance to vote? Of course, in this matter it would > > probably > > > be > > > > possible to persuade INFRA to let Solr "inherit" Lucene's policy > > > > immediately, and then change it back, only if a PMC vote demands > it... > > :) > > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > 21. apr. 2023 kl. 01:01 skrev Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > > > > ichattopadhy...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > Vote and 3 days of wait!? This whole Apache process feels like a > > > needless > > > > > bureaucracy, stuck in the twentieth century. If such a vote is a > > strict > > > > > necessity, I think we should also get a vote on whether to stick > with > > > > > Apache. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 3:52 am Justin Sweeney, < > > > > justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I believe I can continue the release for most of the steps before > > this > > > > will > > > > >> be a blocking issue. If as a result of the vote, it is decided not > > to > > > > grant > > > > >> write permissions to non-PMC committers, I'd just need additional > > > > support > > > > >> from a PMC member to complete the 9.2.1 release. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 6:08 PM Jan Høydahl < > jan....@cominvent.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Ah, I never knew this was the default. I see no reason to change > > our > > > > >>> release practice, so guess we can do a proper VOTE and wait 3 > days > > > for > > > > it > > > > >>> to complete before the release can happen. I suppose several RM > > steps > > > > can > > > > >>> happen before this is a blocker, or? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Jan > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 22:24 skrev Houston Putman < > hous...@apache.org > > >: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Ahhh I think I know the issue. We haven't had a non-pmc > committer > > > do a > > > > >>>> release since the Lucene/Solr split. I guess Lucene was setup to > > > > >> support > > > > >>>> this, but by default Apache doesn't allow it, so Solr doesn't > have > > > it > > > > >>>> enabled now. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> As per the JIRA infra can do this. Should we get a PMC vote on > > this? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> - Houston > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Houston Putman < > > hous...@apache.org> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> I commented. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:59 PM Justin Sweeney < > > > > >>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I've created an Infra ticket here: > > > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24485. It would > > > > probably > > > > >>> be > > > > >>>>>> useful if a few PMC members can comment support for it, I am > not > > > > sure > > > > >>>>>> what an approval process looks like for this. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM Jan Høydahl < > > > jan....@cominvent.com> > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> +1 to give svn release permission to all committers! > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Jan Høydahl > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 18:01 skrev Houston Putman < > > > hous...@apache.org > > > > >: > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Yeah it definitely seems like a change in policy. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Justin already can't add his GPG key to the KEYS file, so we > > > know > > > > >>>>>> this is > > > > >>>>>>>> going to be a blocker now and again when the release vote > > > passes. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> The infra page does say "*By default*, only PMC/PPMC members > > > have > > > > >>>>>> write > > > > >>>>>>>> access to the dist/release directories." So it seems like we > > can > > > > >>>>>> change > > > > >>>>>>>> that for solr if we want to. I have no problem reverting to > > the > > > > old > > > > >>>>>>>> permission scheme, since committers will not be able to do > > > > releases > > > > >>>>>>>> otherwise. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> - Houston > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:38 AM Jan Høydahl < > > > > >> jan....@cominvent.com > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> It has not been a blocker before, so I’d just proceed with > > the > > > > >>>>>> release > > > > >>>>>>> and > > > > >>>>>>>>> ask again if it becomes a problem. Non-pmc committers have > > > > >> certainly > > > > >>>>>>> been > > > > >>>>>>>>> RM before. > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Jan Høydahl > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 17:19 skrev Justin Sweeney < > > > > >>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com > > > > >>>>>>>>>> : > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> While working on the 9.2.1 release process, I've hit a > bit > > > of a > > > > >>>>>>>>> blocker. It > > > > >>>>>>>>>> looks like you must be a PMC member to push to > > > > >>>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/solr (based on > > > > >>>>>>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html#normal > and > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1682001736232839 > > > > ). > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This might primarily be a question for @David Smiley < > > > > >>>>>>> dsmi...@apache.org> > > > > >>>>>>>>> but > > > > >>>>>>>>>> noticed his slack status is on vacation so wanted to raise > > it > > > > >> here > > > > >>>>>> for > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>>>>> group. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Should we modify the permissions to allow any Solr > committer > > > to > > > > >>>>>> push to > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that SVN repo or should we restrict releases to PMC > members? > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I am assuming I can open an Infra ticket to change > > > permissions, > > > > >> but > > > > >>>>>> it > > > > >>>>>>>>> will > > > > >>>>>>>>>> likely require some approvals beyond myself. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Justin > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:21 AM Justin Sweeney < > > > > >>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Yup, feel free to go ahead and merge that in. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:18 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Justin, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have time to merge the following, please? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16741 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ishan > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:37, Justin Sweeney < > > > > >>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for merging that, I'm just getting started along > > the > > > > >>>>>> release > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> process, had to get a gpg key setup but should be > moving > > > > >> today. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:03 AM Jan Høydahl < > > > > >>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merged. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. apr. 2023 kl. 16:10 skrev Houston Putman < > > > > >>>>>> hous...@apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>> : > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that's a good one to include. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:37 AM Jan Høydahl < > > > > >>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there still time to back-port > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16755 ? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. apr. 2023 kl. 17:33 skrev Justin Sweeney < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! I'll get that process started on > > > Monday, > > > > >>>>>> 4/17. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:31 AM Houston Putman < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'd be awesome, thanks! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No documentation really (and if you find any it > will > > > be > > > > >>> very > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out-of-date). > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release process is all managed by the "release > > > > >> wizard" > > > > >>>>>> (a > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> million > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Jan). > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you can start it by: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Check out the "branch_9_2" branch > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. (install python3/pip3 if you don't have them > > > > >> downloaded > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> already) > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. pip3 install -r > > dev-tools/scripts/requirements.txt > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ./dev-tools/scripts/releaseWizard.py --init > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can start/stop the wizard at any time, the > state > > > is > > > > >>>>>> saved. > > > > >>>>>>> I > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest that you do the entire release process on > > one > > > > >>>>>> computer > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> though, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching computers is very hard. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also start the wizard before you want to actually > do > > > the > > > > >>>>>>> release. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial steps that are meant to be done days > before > > > the > > > > >>>>>> release > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There will be two particular snags since you > aren't > > a > > > > PMC > > > > >>>>>>> member, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> but > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will come up early and the releaseWizard will > prompt > > > you > > > > >> to > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> address > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions, do not be afraid to > ask. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:22 AM Justin Sweeney < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 If you need a volunteer to execute the > release, > > I > > > > can > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that next week. Are there docs available for the > > > > release > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> process as > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'd > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my first time through? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:10 PM Jan Høydahl < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. apr. 2023 kl. 15:51 skrev Houston Putman < > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know we just released 9.2 around 2-3 weeks > ago, > > > but > > > > >> it > > > > >>>>>>> looks > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to need a bugfix release soon. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see the list of bugs here: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR/versions/12353017 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should discuss starting the release > > > > process > > > > >>>>>> early > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of these bugs are pretty bad (Particularly > > the > > > > >> SSL > > > > >>> & > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP2 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug - > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLR-16728 < > > > > >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16728 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ). > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > >> dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > >>> dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > > dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
