I like the third from the top the best. It has the best contrast between the light and dark blues. (*Chris*)
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org>wrote: > New colors https://copy.com/mewPAFa0GuQo and designer's answer: > > Several blue variants to be considered. As well as several fonts. > > I do not agree about the font - I like it very much, it is modern - > not all serifs are outdated. > > The font is called Aleo, you can read some here > http://fontfabric.com/aleo-free-font/ > > 2014-03-07 15:29 GMT+01:00 Andrew Carr <andrewlanec...@gmail.com>: > > I have a tattoo already. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Matthew Panetta <matt...@panetta.id.au > >wrote: > > > >> > >> On 7 Mar 2014, at 10:46 pm, Dave Newton <davelnew...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Honestly, if it comes down to it, I'm willing to throw some money at > >> > 99designs to get it done right. > >> > > >> > Another issue I had was the really thin whitespace lines in the logo; > >> that > >> > can make some printing a bit trickier. > >> > > >> > Because we all want t-shirts and tattoos, right? > >> > > >> > Right? > >> > > >> > Anyone? > >> > >> Sure, why not. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:42 AM, i...@flyingfischer.ch < > >> i...@flyingfischer.ch > >> >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Voltaire and Oswald seem to be condensed fonts, while Alegreya Sans > SC > >> and > >> >> Alef and others aren't. > >> >> > >> >> I always feel typography is a very difficult job and needs to be > seen in > >> >> the given case. > >> >> > >> >> Maybe the graphic guy could make some suggestions, choosing the > >> >> appropriate kind of font for the situation? > >> >> > >> >> Markus > >> >> > >> >> Am 07.03.2014 12:08, schrieb Matthew Panetta: > >> >> > >> >>> I like Roboto and Inconsolata. Also found Voltaire and Oswald. > >> >>> > >> >>> https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection: > >> >>> > Alegreya+Sans+SC|Viga|Audiowide|Carrois+Gothic+SC|Alef|Roboto|Nobile| > >> >>> Inconsolata|Voltaire|Oswald< > >> > https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection:Alegreya+Sans+SC%7CViga%7CAudiowide%7CCarrois+Gothic+SC%7CAlef%7CRoboto%7CNobile%7CInconsolata%7CVoltaire%7COswald > >> > > >> >>> > >> >>> On 7 Mar 2014, at 6:05 pm, Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Maybe some of these > >> >>>> > >> >>>> https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection: > >> >>>> Alegreya+Sans+SC|Flamenco|Cambo|Esteban|Audiowide| > >> >>>> > >> > Carrois+Gothic+SC|Alef|Prosto+One|Varela+Round|Roboto|Nobile|Inconsolata< > >> > https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection:Alegreya+Sans+SC%7CFlamenco%7CCambo%7CEsteban%7CAudiowide%7CCarrois+Gothic+SC%7CAlef%7CProsto+One%7CVarela+Round%7CRoboto%7CNobile%7CInconsolata > >> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2014-03-07 7:47 GMT+01:00 Matthew Panetta <matt...@panetta.id.au>: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> My thoughts exactly. Needs a different font. > >> >>>>> On 07/03/2014 5:41 pm, "i...@flyingfischer.ch" < > >> i...@flyingfischer.ch> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> The Logo looks nice. Has a slight reference to the art work of > M.C. > >> >>>>>> Escher. Great work. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Blue is always nice ;-) > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> The typography however gives the whole logo a not too modern > touch, > >> >>>>>> because it uses letters with serifs. I wonder if this will match > >> nicely > >> >>>>>> with the serif free home page of struts 2? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Best regards > >> >>>>>> Markus Fischer > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Am 07.03.2014 06:50, schrieb Lukasz Lenart: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Link if attachment is missing > >> >>>>>>> https://copy.com/MXrnIYz8KajY > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> 2014-03-07 0:01 GMT+01:00 Chris Pratt <thechrispr...@gmail.com > >: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I must have missed it, I don't see anything?? > >> >>>>>>>> (*Chris*) > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Lukasz Lenart < > >> >>>>>>>> lukaszlen...@apache.org> > >> >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Work continues, 3rd version of logo, wdyt? I think dark-blue > >> version > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> would be also nice. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> 2013-11-26 8:59 GMT+01:00 Lukasz Lenart < > lukaszlen...@apache.org > >> >: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> I have passed your comment to designer - anyway we have time > and > >> we > >> >>>>>>>>>> can always start over when the first logo won't be good > enough > >> ;-) > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Reagrds > >> >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>> Łukasz > >> >>>>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/24 Rene Gielen <rene.gie...@gmail.com>: > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Am 20.11.13 14:52, schrieb Christian Grobmeier: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 16:51, Lukasz Lenart wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/12 Cameron Morris <cmor...@part.net>: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I love the look of steampunk and rickety old bridges, but > I > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sends > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wrong message for a project fighting the perception > of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> legacy. I'd say the more modern looking the better. However, > >> some > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> of the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more modern bridges look so space age it might be hard to > >> tell > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> are bridges if they are made into a small icon. Perhaps some > of > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> these > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> might spark an idea: http://www.flickr.com/search/? > >> >>>>>>>>>> q=modern%20bridge > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm... you know everything new someday will be old anyway > ;-) > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rather say let's focus on having cool logo and not the > >> message > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sends ;-) > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the cool logo NOW instead of wasting more time. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Its always funny with us devs. We have a crap logo for > years. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody shows up and contributes a fantastic logo > (compared > >> to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> other one). > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly all devs become designers and social media > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> communicators. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> You are right with our out-of-style old logo, and that > things > >> >>>>>>>>>>> should > >> >>>>>>>>>>> change here. But why exactly are we in such a hurry? Going > too > >> >>>>>>>>>>> long > >> >>>>>>>>>>> with > >> >>>>>>>>>>> an old logo does not mean that a new logo should replace the > >> old > >> >>>>>>>>>>> one > >> >>>>>>>>>>> as > >> >>>>>>>>>>> soon as it is just "better". IMHO we would want to replace > it > >> with > >> >>>>>>>>>>> something that satisfies us for years. It should be cool and > >> >>>>>>>>>>> catchy > >> >>>>>>>>>>> now > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and in five years. "Fantastic compared to the other one" is > IMO > >> >>>>>>>>>>> not > >> >>>>>>>>>>> enough. Do we want old-time users to be surprised to find > >> better > >> >>>>>>>>>>> logo > >> >>>>>>>>>>> now, or do we want anyone stumbling over our site or a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Zeroturnaround > >> >>>>>>>>>>> web frameworks survey to think "hey man, nice logo!"? > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a social media designer, and for that reason I need > to > >> >>>>>>>>>>> interact > >> >>>>>>>>>>> with a designer. I need inspiration and suggestions to > >> formulate > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in > >> >>>>>>>>>>> turn > >> >>>>>>>>>>> which directions to go for the next iteration. Since I'm > not a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> designer, > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm for sure too lame with my own cool logo proposal. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Over all the years I was involved with design tasks, I've > seen > >> >>>>>>>>>>> design > >> >>>>>>>>>>> emerge after some iterations in a process similar to what I > >> >>>>>>>>>>> outlined > >> >>>>>>>>>>> above. I have never ever experienced being given a first > >> proposal > >> >>>>>>>>>>> that > >> >>>>>>>>>>> makes it directly to production. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Personally I am super-happy that we have such a great > proposal. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> And if we don't have another option (one of us devs IS a > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> designer AND > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> does some work) > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> we should definitely consider it. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm super happy with the work being done, and I like some > of > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the ideas > >> >>>>>>>>>>> incorporated in the first proposals. I like the fact that > >> someone > >> >>>>>>>>>>> steps > >> >>>>>>>>>>> up and is kind enough to donate work and creativity, and I > am > >> >>>>>>>>>>> super > >> >>>>>>>>>>> thankful for that - and, to be honest, it makes me bit shy > to > >> >>>>>>>>>>> provide > >> >>>>>>>>>>> too much criticism, especially since it is not my profession > >> the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> actual > >> >>>>>>>>>>> work is all about. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I went back and forth many times the last two weeks to think > >> and > >> >>>>>>>>>>> re-think if I like the logo, how it might be seen, and what > >> well > >> >>>>>>>>>>> founded > >> >>>>>>>>>>> criticism I could give. In my review I tried to both > >> incorporate > >> >>>>>>>>>>> what > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I > >> >>>>>>>>>>> as a non-professional know about design, as well as what I > as a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "professional design recipient" (read: consumer) feel when I > >> see > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> logo. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Some of my thoughts: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Most common to me seems a combination of a dedicated logo > icon > >> >>>>>>>>>>> with a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> clean writing for the brand, or just an elaborate writing > >> without > >> >>>>>>>>>>> logo > >> >>>>>>>>>>> icon. From time to time you see some font gimmickry to make > a > >> pure > >> >>>>>>>>>>> writing recognizable. But I have failed so far to come up > with > >> a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> example > >> >>>>>>>>>>> for a iconified design building a writing and a font design. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at those two sites (scroll to bottom on both) > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://devoxx.be/#/sponsors > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gopivotal.com/ > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> There a good bunch of logos, both of companies and open > source > >> >>>>>>>>>>> projects, > >> >>>>>>>>>>> that look cool, clean and modern, yet timeless. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want to follow newest hipster logo trends, > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://gruntjs.com/ > >> >>>>>>>>>>> might be a source for inspiration. Nevertheless, this seems > to > >> be > >> >>>>>>>>>>> not > >> >>>>>>>>>>> so > >> >>>>>>>>>>> much on the timeless side... > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> That said and reviewed many times during last week, I'm > more in > >> >>>>>>>>>>> favor > >> >>>>>>>>>>> for the combination of an icon symbol combined with with a > >> clean > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and > >> >>>>>>>>>>> modern typographic font for the brand name Struts. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Stepping back a bit when viewing the proposed designs, what > >> >>>>>>>>>>> strikes me > >> >>>>>>>>>>> most is that iconified graphic elements are used to > construct a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> font. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> How does this font look like? It does not seem to follow > all of > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> well > >> >>>>>>>>>>> established rules for font design. If you color it > completely > >> >>>>>>>>>>> black > >> >>>>>>>>>>> from > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the outline and reduce it to the font shape, it does not > look > >> like > >> >>>>>>>>>>> very > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "clean" typography, even a bit clunky. But besides (or even > >> more > >> >>>>>>>>>>> than?) > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graphical details and tasteful colouring, the shape makes > the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> first > >> >>>>>>>>>>> impression to a viewer. I doubt that it is a good idea to > bind > >> the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> font > >> >>>>>>>>>>> shape of a writing to iconified graphics as building > blocks, as > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this > >> >>>>>>>>>>> limits how elaborate the typographic shape itself will look > >> like. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Designing a font is a science by itself, you can find tons > of > >> >>>>>>>>>>> information on the web. Just for some reading giving an > >> >>>>>>>>>>> impression: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://designshack.net/articles/typography/8-rules- > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> for-creating-effective-typography/ > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> As for me, this breaks down to: I have tried to like it, but > - > >> as > >> >>>>>>>>>>> proposed so far - I don't. This is my honest personal view. > >> And I > >> >>>>>>>>>>> also > >> >>>>>>>>>>> think it is a great starting point to go into design > >> iteration. It > >> >>>>>>>>>>> teases me to think, it gives the inspiration someone like me > >> >>>>>>>>>>> needs to > >> >>>>>>>>>>> imagine and maybe phrase what he thinks the final logo (or a > >> next > >> >>>>>>>>>>> step) > >> >>>>>>>>>>> should look like. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Earlier in this discussion, Dave came up with an interesting > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Google > >> >>>>>>>>>>> search for an isolated logo icon to maybe be combined with a > >> clean > >> >>>>>>>>>>> brand > >> >>>>>>>>>>> writing: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > https://www.google.com/search?q=steampunk+box+truss&safe=on&; > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> espv=210&es_sm=91&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei= > >> >>>>>>>>> HjuCUq3NCYrnsATbvYLIBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1478&bih=1042# > >> >>>>>>>>> es_sm=91&espv=210&q=box+truss&safe=off&tbm=isch > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Those two for example could be excellent templates for an > >> >>>>>>>>>>> iconified > >> >>>>>>>>>>> logo > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graphic: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/imgres?safe=off&es_sm=91&espv=210&; > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> bih=1042&biw=1478&tbm=isch&tbnid=eQDpP6WpnMmoXM:&imgrefurl= > >> >>>>>>>>> http://www. > >> >>>>>>>>> germanlightproducts.com/products/16-inch-square-box- > >> >>>>>>>>> truss-f44/&docid= > >> >>>>>>>>> yGLxIpnpCserbM&imgurl=http://www.germanlightproducts.com/ > >> >>>>>>>>> wp-content/uploads/2013/01/F44Box_0.jpg&w=1024&h=768&ei= > >> >>>>>>>>> zPCRUtuZOYbjswaHzoCwCA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:73,s:0,i:305& > >> >>>>>>>>> iact=rc&page=3&tbnh=176&tbnw=236&start=67&ndsp=35&tx=155&ty=76 > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/imgres?safe=off&es_sm=91&espv=210&; > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> bih=1042&biw=1478&tbm=isch&tbnid=rGzeKbh__BY3LM:&imgrefurl= > >> >>>>>>>>> http://www. > >> >>>>>>>>> brownswelding.com.au/truss500/&docid=-uk8Vty_qJyznM&imgurl= > >> >>>>>>>>> http://www.brownswelding.com.au/truss500/images/500box6way. > >> >>>>>>>>> jpg&w=200&h=200&ei=zPCRUtuZOYbjswaHzoCwCA&zoom=1& > >> >>>>>>>>> ved=1t:3588,r:78,s:0,i:320&iact=rc&page=3&tbnh=160&tbnw= > >> >>>>>>>>> 160&start=67&ndsp=35&tx=60&ty=50 > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Also a very reduced and iconified bridge could be interesting > >> for > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> logo > >> >>>>>>>>>>> icon. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I suck badly at crafting graphics, but if time permits I'll > >> give > >> >>>>>>>>>>> it a > >> >>>>>>>>>>> try to express my thoughts in some graphical draft. But > >> basically > >> >>>>>>>>>>> my > >> >>>>>>>>>>> overall thoughts go into a direction like the Typesafe or > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hazelcast > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> logos. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> As far as I understood it, this contribution is backed by > Lukasz > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> company. I am very grateful > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> for the huge effort they already put into this. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Instead of discussing completely new approaches and ideas > which > >> >>>>>>>>>>> might > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> lead to even more discussion, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> we all should answer these two question: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Can you live with the proposal logo? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> just me: actually no, but it's a great start :) > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> 2) If yes, do you prefer the dark or the bright version? > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> My answer to 1) is YES!!!! > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> My answer to 2) I LOVE BOTH > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Christian > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Łukasz > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------- > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> @grobmeier > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> --------- > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>>> René Gielen > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/rgielen > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>>>>>>> --------- > >> >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>> Łukasz > >> >>>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>>>>> --------- > >> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>>> --------- > >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>> --------- > >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> Łukasz > >> >>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > e: davelnew...@gmail.com > >> > m: 908-380-8699 > >> > s: davelnewton_skype > >> > t: @dave_newton <https://twitter.com/dave_newton> > >> > b: Bucky Bits <http://buckybits.blogspot.com/> > >> > g: davelnewton <https://github.com/davelnewton> > >> > so: Dave Newton <http://stackoverflow.com/users/438992/dave-newton> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > With Regards, > > Andrew Carr > > > > e. andrewlanec...@gmail.com > > w. andrew.c...@openlogic.com > > h. 4235255668 > > c. 4239489852 > > a. 101 Francis Drive, Greeneville, TN, 37743 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > >
