Ok, she is going to work on web page now based on dark blue version (3rd). 2014-03-12 22:25 GMT+01:00 Ken McWilliams <ken.mcwilli...@gmail.com>: > The black on white, and white on black (upper left, and upper right) of the > last link look really great. Hands down my favorite. > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org>wrote: > >> B/W version >> https://copy.com/NfEV1rIUDMYf >> >> She started work on new webpage layout - there will be two new >> templates - one for landing page and one common used for other pages. >> >> 2014-03-10 17:23 GMT+01:00 i...@flyingfischer.ch <i...@flyingfischer.ch>: >> > I think version two, included the font used there, is nice. >> > >> > Version three works too, but is a little bit thick and heavy on the >> > typography side. >> > >> > Version one may work too, if you incorporate the font in the whole >> layout, >> > but hit me if I am wrong: no use to choose a nice font for web layout if >> the >> > client has not installed it locally. >> > >> > I personally prefer a more reduced and serif free font. But this really >> is a >> > matter of taste. >> > >> > Great work! Thanks! Whatever you choose or will be chosen. >> > >> > Markus >> > >> > Am 10.03.2014 11:30, schrieb Lukasz Lenart: >> >> >> >> My favourites are two and three but I think we can have few versions >> >> each with different colors. What about fonts? I would like to push >> >> this further and start working on web-side layout :-) >> >> >> >> 2014-03-07 18:09 GMT+01:00 Chris Pratt <thechrispr...@gmail.com>: >> >>> >> >>> I like the third from the top the best. It has the best contrast >> between >> >>> the light and dark blues. >> >>> (*Chris*) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Lukasz Lenart >> >>> <lukaszlen...@apache.org>wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> New colors https://copy.com/mewPAFa0GuQo and designer's answer: >> >>>> >> >>>> Several blue variants to be considered. As well as several fonts. >> >>>> >> >>>> I do not agree about the font - I like it very much, it is modern - >> >>>> not all serifs are outdated. >> >>>> >> >>>> The font is called Aleo, you can read some here >> >>>> http://fontfabric.com/aleo-free-font/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 2014-03-07 15:29 GMT+01:00 Andrew Carr <andrewlanec...@gmail.com>: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I have a tattoo already. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Matthew Panetta < >> matt...@panetta.id.au >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 7 Mar 2014, at 10:46 pm, Dave Newton <davelnew...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Honestly, if it comes down to it, I'm willing to throw some money >> at >> >>>>>>> 99designs to get it done right. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Another issue I had was the really thin whitespace lines in the >> logo; >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> that >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> can make some printing a bit trickier. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Because we all want t-shirts and tattoos, right? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Right? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Anyone? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sure, why not. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:42 AM, i...@flyingfischer.ch < >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> i...@flyingfischer.ch >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Voltaire and Oswald seem to be condensed fonts, while Alegreya >> Sans >> >>>> >> >>>> SC >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Alef and others aren't. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I always feel typography is a very difficult job and needs to be >> >>>> >> >>>> seen in >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> the given case. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Maybe the graphic guy could make some suggestions, choosing the >> >>>>>>>> appropriate kind of font for the situation? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Markus >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Am 07.03.2014 12:08, schrieb Matthew Panetta: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I like Roboto and Inconsolata. Also found Voltaire and Oswald. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>> Alegreya+Sans+SC|Viga|Audiowide|Carrois+Gothic+SC|Alef|Roboto|Nobile| >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Inconsolata|Voltaire|Oswald< >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection:Alegreya+Sans+SC%7CViga%7CAudiowide%7CCarrois+Gothic+SC%7CAlef%7CRoboto%7CNobile%7CInconsolata%7CVoltaire%7COswald >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 7 Mar 2014, at 6:05 pm, Lukasz Lenart < >> lukaszlen...@apache.org> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Maybe some of these >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection: >> >>>>>>>>>> Alegreya+Sans+SC|Flamenco|Cambo|Esteban|Audiowide| >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Carrois+Gothic+SC|Alef|Prosto+One|Varela+Round|Roboto|Nobile|Inconsolata< >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection:Alegreya+Sans+SC%7CFlamenco%7CCambo%7CEsteban%7CAudiowide%7CCarrois+Gothic+SC%7CAlef%7CProsto+One%7CVarela+Round%7CRoboto%7CNobile%7CInconsolata >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-07 7:47 GMT+01:00 Matthew Panetta < >> matt...@panetta.id.au>: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> My thoughts exactly. Needs a different font. >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 07/03/2014 5:41 pm, "i...@flyingfischer.ch" < >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> i...@flyingfischer.ch> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The Logo looks nice. Has a slight reference to the art work of >> >>>> >> >>>> M.C. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Escher. Great work. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blue is always nice ;-) >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> The typography however gives the whole logo a not too modern >> >>>> >> >>>> touch, >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it uses letters with serifs. I wonder if this will >> match >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> nicely >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> with the serif free home page of struts 2? >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Markus Fischer >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 07.03.2014 06:50, schrieb Lukasz Lenart: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Link if attachment is missing >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://copy.com/MXrnIYz8KajY >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-07 0:01 GMT+01:00 Chris Pratt < >> thechrispr...@gmail.com >> >>>>> >> >>>>> : >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I must have missed it, I don't see anything?? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (*Chris*) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Lukasz Lenart < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lukaszlen...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Work continues, 3rd version of logo, wdyt? I think dark-blue >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> version >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be also nice. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013-11-26 8:59 GMT+01:00 Lukasz Lenart < >> >>>> >> >>>> lukaszlen...@apache.org >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> : >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have passed your comment to designer - anyway we have >> time >> >>>> >> >>>> and >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can always start over when the first logo won't be good >> >>>> >> >>>> enough >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ;-) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reagrds >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Łukasz >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/24 Rene Gielen <rene.gie...@gmail.com>: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 20.11.13 14:52, schrieb Christian Grobmeier: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 16:51, Lukasz Lenart wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/12 Cameron Morris <cmor...@part.net>: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love the look of steampunk and rickety old bridges, >> but >> >>>> >> >>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sends >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wrong message for a project fighting the >> perception >> >>>> >> >>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legacy. I'd say the more modern looking the better. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> some >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more modern bridges look so space age it might be hard >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> tell >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bridges if they are made into a small icon. Perhaps >> some >> >>>> >> >>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might spark an idea: http://www.flickr.com/search/? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> q=modern%20bridge >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm... you know everything new someday will be old >> anyway >> >>>> >> >>>> ;-) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather say let's focus on having cool logo and not the >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> message >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sends ;-) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the cool logo NOW instead of wasting more time. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its always funny with us devs. We have a crap logo for >> >>>> >> >>>> years. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somebody shows up and contributes a fantastic logo >> >>>> >> >>>> (compared >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other one). >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly all devs become designers and social media >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communicators. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are right with our out-of-style old logo, and that >> >>>> >> >>>> things >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change here. But why exactly are we in such a hurry? >> Going >> >>>> >> >>>> too >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an old logo does not mean that a new logo should replace >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> old >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon as it is just "better". IMHO we would want to >> replace >> >>>> >> >>>> it >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> with >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that satisfies us for years. It should be cool >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> catchy >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in five years. "Fantastic compared to the other one" >> is >> >>>> >> >>>> IMO >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. Do we want old-time users to be surprised to find >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> better >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, or do we want anyone stumbling over our site or a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zeroturnaround >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web frameworks survey to think "hey man, nice logo!"? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a social media designer, and for that reason I >> need >> >>>> >> >>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interact >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a designer. I need inspiration and suggestions to >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> formulate >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which directions to go for the next iteration. Since I'm >> >>>> >> >>>> not a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm for sure too lame with my own cool logo proposal. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Over all the years I was involved with design tasks, I've >> >>>> >> >>>> seen >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emerge after some iterations in a process similar to >> what I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outlined >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above. I have never ever experienced being given a first >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> proposal >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes it directly to production. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I am super-happy that we have such a great >> >>>> >> >>>> proposal. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if we don't have another option (one of us devs IS a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer AND >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does some work) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should definitely consider it. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm super happy with the work being done, and I like >> some >> >>>> >> >>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorporated in the first proposals. I like the fact that >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> someone >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steps >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up and is kind enough to donate work and creativity, and >> I >> >>>> >> >>>> am >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for that - and, to be honest, it makes me bit >> shy >> >>>> >> >>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too much criticism, especially since it is not my >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profession >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work is all about. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went back and forth many times the last two weeks to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-think if I like the logo, how it might be seen, and >> what >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> well >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> founded >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criticism I could give. In my review I tried to both >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> incorporate >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a non-professional know about design, as well as what >> I >> >>>> >> >>>> as a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "professional design recipient" (read: consumer) feel >> when >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> see >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of my thoughts: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most common to me seems a combination of a dedicated logo >> >>>> >> >>>> icon >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean writing for the brand, or just an elaborate writing >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> without >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon. From time to time you see some font gimmickry to >> make >> >>>> >> >>>> a >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> pure >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing recognizable. But I have failed so far to come up >> >>>> >> >>>> with >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a iconified design building a writing and a font >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> design. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at those two sites (scroll to bottom on both) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://devoxx.be/#/sponsors >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gopivotal.com/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There a good bunch of logos, both of companies and open >> >>>> >> >>>> source >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that look cool, clean and modern, yet timeless. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to follow newest hipster logo trends, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gruntjs.com/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be a source for inspiration. Nevertheless, this >> seems >> >>>> >> >>>> to >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much on the timeless side... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said and reviewed many times during last week, I'm >> >>>> >> >>>> more in >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favor >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the combination of an icon symbol combined with with >> a >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> clean >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern typographic font for the brand name Struts. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stepping back a bit when viewing the proposed designs, >> what >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strikes me >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most is that iconified graphic elements are used to >> >>>> >> >>>> construct a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> font. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does this font look like? It does not seem to follow >> >>>> >> >>>> all of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> established rules for font design. If you color it >> >>>> >> >>>> completely >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the outline and reduce it to the font shape, it does not >> >>>> >> >>>> look >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> like >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "clean" typography, even a bit clunky. But besides (or >> even >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> more >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than?) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphical details and tasteful colouring, the shape makes >> >>>> >> >>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression to a viewer. I doubt that it is a good idea to >> >>>> >> >>>> bind >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> font >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shape of a writing to iconified graphics as building >> >>>> >> >>>> blocks, as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits how elaborate the typographic shape itself will >> look >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> like. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Designing a font is a science by itself, you can find >> tons >> >>>> >> >>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information on the web. Just for some reading giving an >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://designshack.net/articles/typography/8-rules- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for-creating-effective-typography/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for me, this breaks down to: I have tried to like it, >> but >> >>>> >> >>>> - >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed so far - I don't. This is my honest personal >> view. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> And I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >> >>
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