There's not a lot of pages - true - though when i wear the release manager
hat i have grumble every time i have to go through all the links trying to
get it right. invariably i make a change, then copy/paste to the others
only to find i misspelled something or missed a link. it just sucks.  That
said, i'm open to the idea of moving the site as-is to the git repo under a
/site directory. that would be the first step to doing the static site
generation anyway.

if it doesn't hinge on static site generation, then perhaps it should hinge
on a little script or something that will bin/publish-site.sh - that would
be nice.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Robert Dale <[email protected]> wrote:

> Stephen, please correct me where I'm wrong, but after mirroring the
> site and removing docs and javadocs since these are generated, it
> would appear that there are only 7 html files to the website. It's not
> clear to me that at this point the effort of creating or moving to a
> template engine is worth the effort. I would rather see the static
> site as-is move to version control sooner rather than later and not
> hinge upon generation.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Dylan Millikin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > The groovy template engine could work just fine.
> > FYI :
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3793880/lightweight-template-engine-in-java
> > There might be a few interested template engines there as well.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Stephen Mallette <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah - i'm not so good with the sed to the awk to the grep or whatever
> so
> >> if it can be that simple that would be awesome. The groovy template
> engine
> >> might be another option. Something like that would work easy enough too
> I
> >> would guess. I really don't think we need much more than that right now.
> >>
> >> Organizationally, I think we should have a /site directory at the root
> of
> >> the repo to house the images/html template content and then have it
> >> generate into root /target/site from bin/generate-site.sh.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Dylan Millikin <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hmm sounds like what we would want would be a template engine that
> would
> >> > help us build the static site.
> >> > If all we need are includes that put together html partials
> >> > (headers/footers) we could make our own. It could be as simple as
> using
> >> sed
> >> > in bin/generate-web-site.sh
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> [email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > yes - static html/css and it sucks a bit because we don't have any
> >> re-use
> >> > > going on there. so if we have to change a menu or something it means
> >> > > changing it on every page in the site. would be nice to have some
> >> > re-usable
> >> > > headers/footers and such. i looked into some static site generators
> a
> >> > while
> >> > > back, but they all seemed like they did too much. maybe i didn't
> know
> >> > what
> >> > > to look for.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Dylan Millikin <
> >> [email protected]
> >> > >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > How is the current site structured? Is it just HTML and CSS files?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >> [email protected]
> >> > >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > no - we don't have one for the main web site. i've wanted to
> >> suggest
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > we change that though and generate the main web site from the
> >> github
> >> > > > repo.
> >> > > > > in that way we could easily accept pull requests and such. i
> don't
> >> > > think
> >> > > > we
> >> > > > > want to take a full asciidoc approach and the web site
> generation
> >> > would
> >> > > > > probably stay separate from the doc generation, but it would be
> >> nice
> >> > if
> >> > > > we
> >> > > > > could bin/generate-web-site.sh for a local build of that that
> thing
> >> > > which
> >> > > > > could then be published to the apache svn repo. anyone else like
> >> that
> >> > > > idea?
> >> > > > > if so, how would it best be done?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Robert Dale <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Is there a git repo for this and the main website?  I would
> like
> >> to
> >> > > > > > make pull requests to fix some things.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >> > > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > The download page is now "live"
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >> > > > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> I assume everyone is cool with making the Download Page
> live
> >> at
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > > point
> >> > > > > > >> as there's been no other feedback in the last few days.
> I'll
> >> > > > probably
> >> > > > > > make
> >> > > > > > >> some adjustments to the web site tomorrow to bring it
> online
> >> > > > publicly.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Stephen Mallette <
> >> > > > > [email protected]
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>> I updated the downloads page some more:
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> + tweaked the date format a bit to "really" match the
> rest of
> >> > the
> >> > > > > site
> >> > > > > > >>> (which is still inconsistent in other places like
> changelog -
> >> > > dah)
> >> > > > > > >>> + added a "verifying downloads" section which talks about
> >> > > > > GPG/PGP/etc.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/downloads.html
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >> > > > > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>>> Good feedback Robert/Jason.
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>> Updated:
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/downloads.html
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>> Added documentation and included some descriptors to
> current
> >> > > > > releases.
> >> > > > > > >>>> Didn't change the date format for now - that's the
> format we
> >> > use
> >> > > > > > everywhere
> >> > > > > > >>>> around "release" so didn't want to muck with that at this
> >> > point.
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Robert Dale <
> >> > [email protected]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> Stephen, I think what Sebb might be getting at is that
> some
> >> > > > things
> >> > > > > > >>>>> should be spelled out even if they are obvious to some.
> I
> >> > agree
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > >>>>> this.
> >> > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> 3.2.1 (latest, stable)
> >> > > > > > >>>>> 3.1.3 (bug fixes only)
> >> > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> I think the dates should be in ISO8601 format.
> YYYY-MM-DD
> >> > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> Otherwise, I think it looks very good.
> >> > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> --
> >> > > > > > >>>>> Robert Dale
> >> > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Jason Plurad <
> >> > > [email protected]
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>>>> > +1 looks great.
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > >>>>> > Link to the documentation, maybe next to the release
> >> notes
> >> > > > link,
> >> > > > > > >>>>> would be
> >> > > > > > >>>>> > useful too.
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > >>>>> > -- Jason
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > >>>>> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Stephen Mallette <
> >> > > > > > >>>>> [email protected]>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> I think it might be a good idea to include a
> "Download
> >> > Page"
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > > > our
> >> > > > > > >>>>> web
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> site. It would let us better list the versions we
> have
> >> out
> >> > > > there
> >> > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > >>>>> would
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> get us better in line with Apache Infrastructure -
> for
> >> > > > example:
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1255
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> I'm also seeing that we yet have spots where we dont'
> >> link
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >>>>> mirror
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> system. And finally, it would be nice to have a
> >> "generic"
> >> > > > > download
> >> > > > > > >>>>> page
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> where we could point external links to - like the new
> >> > > > > > "documentation"
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> feature in StackOverflow (right now it's sorta
> hardcoded
> >> > to
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > >>>>> mirror
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> which isn't so good because we'll have to change that
> >> all
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > time).
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> I quickly took a swipe at such a page:
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/downloads.html
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> It is NOT "linked to" by anything at this point so
> it is
> >> > > > > > "hidden". I
> >> > > > > > >>>>> just
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> wanted to have something that everyone could look at
> to
> >> > get
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > idea
> >> > > > > > >>>>> of
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> what such a page might look like.
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> Thoughts?
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> Thanks,
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> Stephen
> >> > > > > > >>>>> >>
> >> > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > Robert Dale
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Robert Dale
>

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