У суб, 15. 05 2010. у 10:48 +1200, Ivan M пише:
> To keep things moving, I have created a new wiki section in the
> website project where we can list ideas ... feel free to add your own.
> 
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/2010_Redesign
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/2010_Redesign/Ideas
> 

Thanks Ivan. I think that while wiki is better for the outreach and
keeping us all on track, mailing list is better for a dialog so I am
sending my comments here.

I am not a fan of pop-up menus on web pages, they can be hard to
navigate and are mostly unusable by keyboard navigation. They also tend
to look because of short width compared to the rest of a page elements.

A double horizontal bar with second bar displayed on click can be a nice
alternative. It is also easier to have navigation experience consistent
as sub-pages can show the sub-bar by default. Than we could have third
level navigation as a vertical block like the current left column. For a
change, we can move it to the right as more and more sites are doing so.

I like your suggestion for links in footer. This will give more space
for descriptive links even it is for the same content as available in
main navigation. It can also be useful to promote some sub-sub-pages as
first class links in the footer.

I am thinking why we do not put a "Contribute" menu item instead of
"Development"? The other sound somehow scary (like it is only for
developers). Issue Tracker can be used for new feature requests and for
voting on issues, something that we should actively promote to more
experienced users. After all there is a "Contribute"-like link in the
current action items, why not promote it into main menu.

What about adding a "Office suite" link. It is our main product. Your
"Projects" link for projects list fit well under this item while other
content could go into "Contribute".

"Download" and sub-items could go under "Office suite" too, but we
should also promote these items in a sidebar or as action items. It
would be nice to have some metrics how many users clicks "Download" in
the top menu bar compared to "Download" clicks in the action items. Can
we add Google analytics event code just before 3.2.1 launch date to get
some data?

About could become "About community" (like in OpenOffice.org is both a
product and a community) with subitems like "Participation" and
"Governance". Currently about looks like a place for "everything else",
take a look at http://about.openoffice.org/index.html

I believe that sub menu structure for "Support" should not have a strong
structure as the content under is so diverse. We should not forget
"Documentation" or "Documentation wiki", there may be users looking for
this item. Support can be more like a portal promoting many ways how one
can get support. I see there is some progress on list about Support
portal content but hopefully we can do even more to promote current
resources and push users into creating new documentation in scope of
this redesign. 

As a summary, let me state some different menu structure. I do not see
it as better, but as a different idea that should be discussed, updated
and merged with others.

* News
  - Press releases
  - Blog planets
  - Newsletter

* Office suite
  - Download!
  - Awards and reviews
  - Extensions
  - Templates
  - Clipart
  - Projects

* Contribute
  - Ideas how to help
  - Issue tracker
  - Development

* Support

* Wiki

* About community
  - Open source
  - Community vision
  - Organization and governance
  - Project leads
  - Language communities


Kind regards,
Goran Rakic



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