Hi Goran,

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Goran Rakic <[email protected]> wrote:
> У суб, 15. 05 2010. у 10:48 +1200, Ivan M пише:
>> To keep things moving, I have created a new wiki section in the
>> website project where we can list ideas ... feel free to add your own.
>>
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/2010_Redesign
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/2010_Redesign/Ideas
>>
>
> Thanks Ivan. I think that while wiki is better for the outreach and
> keeping us all on track, mailing list is better for a dialog so I am
> sending my comments here.

Certainly. If we rely on the wiki alone it's easy to stop discussing
and start feeling distant from the process, but at the same time I
feel that creating a wiki page gives this endeavour a little more
substance and makes it just a little more official :). Let's keep the
discussion going here in addition to updating the wiki with its
progress.

> I am not a fan of pop-up menus on web pages, they can be hard to
> navigate and are mostly unusable by keyboard navigation. They also tend
> to look because of short width compared to the rest of a page elements.
>
> A double horizontal bar with second bar displayed on click can be a nice
> alternative. It is also easier to have navigation experience consistent
> as sub-pages can show the sub-bar by default. Than we could have third
> level navigation as a vertical block like the current left column. For a
> change, we can move it to the right as more and more sites are doing so.

This is definitely something the UX project should have a strong say
in; we should consider all the possible options with regard to wite
navigation. For now though, we can list a number of ideas to get the
ball rolling, so please add yours to the wiki page.

> I like your suggestion for links in footer. This will give more space
> for descriptive links even it is for the same content as available in
> main navigation. It can also be useful to promote some sub-sub-pages as
> first class links in the footer.
>
>> [...]
>
> As a summary, let me state some different menu structure. I do not see
> it as better, but as a different idea that should be discussed, updated
> and merged with others.
>
> * News
>  - Press releases
>  - Blog planets
>  - Newsletter
>
> * Office suite
>  - Download!
>  - Awards and reviews
>  - Extensions
>  - Templates
>  - Clipart
>  - Projects
>
> * Contribute
>  - Ideas how to help
>  - Issue tracker
>  - Development
>
> * Support
>
> * Wiki
>
> * About community
>  - Open source
>  - Community vision
>  - Organization and governance
>  - Project leads
>  - Language communities

Please add this to the wiki as well. If we can keep the discussion
reasonably broad at this stage and agree on some fundamentals (from
the website project's point of view), that would be ideal. In-depth,
point-by-point discussion can always come later, when we involve other
projects (the marketing project will probably have lots to say about
the navigation).

Regards,
Ivan.

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