Moon please don't try to turn this into a personal debate with me. Clearly, members of the community disagree with the way you see things.
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:45 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > > I shared why i specific features are not prerequisites of graduation and > why it's off-topic. Also alternative discussion thread that can be handled. > > Amos, if you think specific features are prerequisites of graduation, > please share the reason why. > > Thanks, > moon > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think the community should be able to decide for itself what it wants to >> talk about and I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to say that part >> of the discussion is off-limits. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:22 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I don't think any feature (R or whatever) should be prerequisites of >>> graduation. Especially when a project never setup those features as a >>> graduation goal. >>> >>> Including specific features could be valid concern for release >> discussion, >>> but i don't think it's related to a graduation. >>> >>> Graduation is much more like if project is doing it in apache way, in my >>> understanding. Last time the reason why i didn't go for a graduation vote >>> is, because of there were valid concern about contribution impasse. >>> >>> Since that, community improved / clarified contribution guide and review >>> process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were trying to help many contributions >>> that they have been as a open PR for a long time. (Especially Jongyoul >> and >>> Felix helped a lot) >>> >>> So, let's move discussions like 'which feature should be included' to the >>> release / roadmap discussion. >>> In the graduation discussion, i'd like to have an discussions, such as >>> evaluating >> http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html, >>> etc. >>> >>> Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, Eran, Sourav? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> moon >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> No Eran is right. The last vote for graduation passed-it was not >> withdrawn >>>> in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed and there was some feedback from >> the >>>> mentors concerning graduation, R, and some other issues. And that's the >>>> last public discussion about graduation until today. >>>> >>>> Alex if you disagree with that do you have links to the discussion >> emails >>>> that you're referring to. >>>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Eran, >>>>> >>>>> thanks for sharing your oppinion! >>>>> >>>>> Could you please check my previous reply about release schedulle and >> let >>>> us >>>>> know if that makes sense to you? >>>>> >>>>> By the way, please our mentors correct me if I'm wrong here, but after >>>>> reading [1] I was under impression that project does not have >> pre-request >>>>> regarding its code or features in order to undergo this formal >> procedure >>>> of >>>>> graduation. >>>>> >>>>> [1] >> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran Witkon <eranwit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If I recall correctly R support was one of the pre-requisite for >>>> graduation >>>>>> from day one. >>>>>> I agree that Authentication should be added as well. >>>>>> +1 for graduation after we add both >>>>>> Eran >>>>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav Mazumder < >>>> sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Surely I vote for the same. Zeppelin is already very popular in >>>> different >>>>>>> quarts of the Spark/Big Data user group. High time to graduate it to >>>> top >>>>>>> level. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, I shall suggest to have the support for R and Authentication >>>>>> added >>>>>>> to Zeppelin before that. These are the supports most of the people >> are >>>>>>> eagerly waiting for. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Sourav >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Alexander for resuming the discussion. >>>>>>>> Let's start a vote. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> moon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 PM Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org >>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Zeppelin developers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to >>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>>>> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level >>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE >>>>>> thread >>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Alex >>
