This does make sense Moon. Completely agree with you that features are not important for becoming a top level project
However, in my opinion, from the practical usage standpoint, without these two features Zeppelin does not look to me a full fledged top level project. Curious whether there are any technical glitches which are impediment in bringing these features to the main branch. Wondering if any help can help to get those problems fixed. Regards, Sourav On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:22 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I don't think any feature (R or whatever) should be prerequisites of > graduation. Especially when a project never setup those features as a > graduation goal. > > Including specific features could be valid concern for release discussion, > but i don't think it's related to a graduation. > > Graduation is much more like if project is doing it in apache way, in my > understanding. Last time the reason why i didn't go for a graduation vote > is, because of there were valid concern about contribution impasse. > > Since that, community improved / clarified contribution guide and review > process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were trying to help many contributions > that they have been as a open PR for a long time. (Especially Jongyoul and > Felix helped a lot) > > So, let's move discussions like 'which feature should be included' to the > release / roadmap discussion. > In the graduation discussion, i'd like to have an discussions, such as > evaluating > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html, > etc. > > Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, Eran, Sourav? > > Thanks, > moon > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > No Eran is right. The last vote for graduation passed-it was not > withdrawn > > in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed and there was some feedback from > the > > mentors concerning graduation, R, and some other issues. And that's the > > last public discussion about graduation until today. > > > > Alex if you disagree with that do you have links to the discussion emails > > that you're referring to. > > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Eran, > > > > > > thanks for sharing your oppinion! > > > > > > Could you please check my previous reply about release schedulle and > let > > us > > > know if that makes sense to you? > > > > > > By the way, please our mentors correct me if I'm wrong here, but after > > > reading [1] I was under impression that project does not have > pre-request > > > regarding its code or features in order to undergo this formal > procedure > > of > > > graduation. > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator > > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran Witkon <eranwit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> If I recall correctly R support was one of the pre-requisite for > > graduation > > >> from day one. > > >> I agree that Authentication should be added as well. > > >> +1 for graduation after we add both > > >> Eran > > >> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav Mazumder < > > sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Surely I vote for the same. Zeppelin is already very popular in > > different > > >>> quarts of the Spark/Big Data user group. High time to graduate it to > > top > > >>> level. > > >>> > > >>> However, I shall suggest to have the support for R and Authentication > > >> added > > >>> to Zeppelin before that. These are the supports most of the people > are > > >>> eagerly waiting for. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Sourav > > >>> > > >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks Alexander for resuming the discussion. > > >>>> Let's start a vote. > > >>>> > > >>>> Best, > > >>>> moon > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 PM Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Dear Zeppelin developers, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to > > >>>> suggest > > >>>>> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level > > >> project. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE > > >> thread > > >>>>> here. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> What do you guys think? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Alex > > >> > > >
