Moon I don't think that's the question. The question is why are these things still being delayed, and what happened to the last attempt to graduate. You seem very focused on me.
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 10:32 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > > Amos, > > I'm not sure why you taking me to want turn personal debate to you. > I'm sure i don't want to have personal debate to you. > > I just wanted you share you reason why you think specific features are > prerequisites. Can you share the reason why? > > Thanks, > moon > >> On 2016년 2월 4일 (목) at 오후 12:01 Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Moon please don't try to turn this into a personal debate with me. >> Clearly, members of the community disagree with the way you see things. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:45 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> I shared why i specific features are not prerequisites of graduation and >>> why it's off-topic. Also alternative discussion thread that can be >> handled. >>> >>> Amos, if you think specific features are prerequisites of graduation, >>> please share the reason why. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> moon >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think the community should be able to decide for itself what it wants >> to >>>> talk about and I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to say that >> part >>>> of the discussion is off-limits. >>>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:22 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi guys, >>>>> >>>>> I don't think any feature (R or whatever) should be prerequisites of >>>>> graduation. Especially when a project never setup those features as a >>>>> graduation goal. >>>>> >>>>> Including specific features could be valid concern for release >>>> discussion, >>>>> but i don't think it's related to a graduation. >>>>> >>>>> Graduation is much more like if project is doing it in apache way, in >> my >>>>> understanding. Last time the reason why i didn't go for a graduation >> vote >>>>> is, because of there were valid concern about contribution impasse. >>>>> >>>>> Since that, community improved / clarified contribution guide and >> review >>>>> process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were trying to help many >> contributions >>>>> that they have been as a open PR for a long time. (Especially Jongyoul >>>> and >>>>> Felix helped a lot) >>>>> >>>>> So, let's move discussions like 'which feature should be included' to >> the >>>>> release / roadmap discussion. >>>>> In the graduation discussion, i'd like to have an discussions, such as >>>>> evaluating >> http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html, >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, Eran, Sourav? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> moon >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No Eran is right. The last vote for graduation passed-it was not >>>> withdrawn >>>>>> in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed and there was some feedback >> from >>>> the >>>>>> mentors concerning graduation, R, and some other issues. And that's >> the >>>>>> last public discussion about graduation until today. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex if you disagree with that do you have links to the discussion >>>> emails >>>>>> that you're referring to. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Eran, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks for sharing your oppinion! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you please check my previous reply about release schedulle and >>>> let >>>>>> us >>>>>>> know if that makes sense to you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way, please our mentors correct me if I'm wrong here, but >> after >>>>>>> reading [1] I was under impression that project does not have >>>> pre-request >>>>>>> regarding its code or features in order to undergo this formal >>>> procedure >>>>>> of >>>>>>> graduation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran Witkon <eranwit...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I recall correctly R support was one of the pre-requisite for >>>>>> graduation >>>>>>>> from day one. >>>>>>>> I agree that Authentication should be added as well. >>>>>>>> +1 for graduation after we add both >>>>>>>> Eran >>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav Mazumder < >>>>>> sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Surely I vote for the same. Zeppelin is already very popular in >>>>>> different >>>>>>>>> quarts of the Spark/Big Data user group. High time to graduate it >> to >>>>>> top >>>>>>>>> level. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, I shall suggest to have the support for R and >> Authentication >>>>>>>> added >>>>>>>>> to Zeppelin before that. These are the supports most of the people >>>> are >>>>>>>>> eagerly waiting for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Sourav >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alexander for resuming the discussion. >>>>>>>>>> Let's start a vote. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> moon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 PM Alexander Bezzubov < >> b...@apache.org >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Zeppelin developers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like >> to >>>>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>>>>>> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level >>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE >>>>>>>> thread >>>>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Alex >>
