Amos, I'm not sure why you taking me to want turn personal debate to you. I'm sure i don't want to have personal debate to you.
I just wanted you share you reason why you think specific features are prerequisites. Can you share the reason why? Thanks, moon On 2016년 2월 4일 (목) at 오후 12:01 Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Moon please don't try to turn this into a personal debate with me. > Clearly, members of the community disagree with the way you see things. > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:45 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > I shared why i specific features are not prerequisites of graduation and > > why it's off-topic. Also alternative discussion thread that can be > handled. > > > > Amos, if you think specific features are prerequisites of graduation, > > please share the reason why. > > > > Thanks, > > moon > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I think the community should be able to decide for itself what it wants > to > >> talk about and I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to say that > part > >> of the discussion is off-limits. > >> > >>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:22 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi guys, > >>> > >>> I don't think any feature (R or whatever) should be prerequisites of > >>> graduation. Especially when a project never setup those features as a > >>> graduation goal. > >>> > >>> Including specific features could be valid concern for release > >> discussion, > >>> but i don't think it's related to a graduation. > >>> > >>> Graduation is much more like if project is doing it in apache way, in > my > >>> understanding. Last time the reason why i didn't go for a graduation > vote > >>> is, because of there were valid concern about contribution impasse. > >>> > >>> Since that, community improved / clarified contribution guide and > review > >>> process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were trying to help many > contributions > >>> that they have been as a open PR for a long time. (Especially Jongyoul > >> and > >>> Felix helped a lot) > >>> > >>> So, let's move discussions like 'which feature should be included' to > the > >>> release / roadmap discussion. > >>> In the graduation discussion, i'd like to have an discussions, such as > >>> evaluating > >> > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html, > >>> etc. > >>> > >>> Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, Eran, Sourav? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> moon > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> No Eran is right. The last vote for graduation passed-it was not > >> withdrawn > >>>> in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed and there was some feedback > from > >> the > >>>> mentors concerning graduation, R, and some other issues. And that's > the > >>>> last public discussion about graduation until today. > >>>> > >>>> Alex if you disagree with that do you have links to the discussion > >> emails > >>>> that you're referring to. > >>>> > >>>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Eran, > >>>>> > >>>>> thanks for sharing your oppinion! > >>>>> > >>>>> Could you please check my previous reply about release schedulle and > >> let > >>>> us > >>>>> know if that makes sense to you? > >>>>> > >>>>> By the way, please our mentors correct me if I'm wrong here, but > after > >>>>> reading [1] I was under impression that project does not have > >> pre-request > >>>>> regarding its code or features in order to undergo this formal > >> procedure > >>>> of > >>>>> graduation. > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] > >> > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran Witkon <eranwit...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If I recall correctly R support was one of the pre-requisite for > >>>> graduation > >>>>>> from day one. > >>>>>> I agree that Authentication should be added as well. > >>>>>> +1 for graduation after we add both > >>>>>> Eran > >>>>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav Mazumder < > >>>> sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Surely I vote for the same. Zeppelin is already very popular in > >>>> different > >>>>>>> quarts of the Spark/Big Data user group. High time to graduate it > to > >>>> top > >>>>>>> level. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> However, I shall suggest to have the support for R and > Authentication > >>>>>> added > >>>>>>> to Zeppelin before that. These are the supports most of the people > >> are > >>>>>>> eagerly waiting for. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Sourav > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks Alexander for resuming the discussion. > >>>>>>>> Let's start a vote. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>> moon > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 PM Alexander Bezzubov < > b...@apache.org > >>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear Zeppelin developers, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like > to > >>>>>>>> suggest > >>>>>>>>> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level > >>>>>> project. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE > >>>>>> thread > >>>>>>>>> here. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Alex > >> >
