I think the community should be able to decide for itself what it wants to talk 
about and I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to say that part of the 
discussion is off-limits.

> On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:22 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I don't think any feature (R or whatever) should be prerequisites of
> graduation. Especially when a project never setup those features as a
> graduation goal.
> 
> Including specific features could be valid concern for release discussion,
> but i don't think it's related to a graduation.
> 
> Graduation is much more like if project is doing it in apache way, in my
> understanding. Last time the reason why i didn't go for a graduation vote
> is, because of there were valid concern about contribution impasse.
> 
> Since that, community improved / clarified contribution guide and review
> process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were trying to help many contributions
> that they have been as a open PR for a long time. (Especially Jongyoul and
> Felix helped a lot)
> 
> So, let's move discussions like 'which feature should be included' to the
> release / roadmap discussion.
> In the graduation discussion, i'd like to have an discussions, such as
> evaluating
> http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html,
> etc.
> 
> Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, Eran, Sourav?
> 
> Thanks,
> moon
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No Eran is right. The last vote for graduation passed-it was not withdrawn
>> in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed and there was some feedback from the
>> mentors concerning graduation, R, and some other issues. And that's the
>> last public discussion about graduation until today.
>> 
>> Alex if you disagree with that do you have links to the discussion emails
>> that you're referring to.
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eran,
>>> 
>>> thanks for sharing your oppinion!
>>> 
>>> Could you please check my previous reply about release schedulle and let
>> us
>>> know if that makes sense to you?
>>> 
>>> By the way, please our mentors correct me if I'm wrong here, but after
>>> reading [1] I was under impression that project does not have pre-request
>>> regarding its code or features in order to undergo this formal procedure
>> of
>>> graduation.
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> 
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran Witkon <eranwit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If I recall correctly R support was one of the pre-requisite for
>> graduation
>>>> from day one.
>>>> I agree that Authentication should be added as well.
>>>> +1 for graduation after we add both
>>>> Eran
>>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav Mazumder <
>> sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Surely I vote for the same. Zeppelin is already very popular in
>> different
>>>>> quarts of the Spark/Big Data user group. High time to graduate it to
>> top
>>>>> level.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I shall suggest to have the support for R and Authentication
>>>> added
>>>>> to Zeppelin before that. These are the supports most of the people are
>>>>> eagerly waiting for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sourav
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Alexander for resuming the discussion.
>>>>>> Let's start a vote.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> moon
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 PM Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear Zeppelin developers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to
>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level
>>>> project.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE
>>>> thread
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>> 

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