I think the community should be able to decide for itself what it wants to talk about and I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to say that part of the discussion is off-limits.
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:22 PM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I don't think any feature (R or whatever) should be prerequisites of > graduation. Especially when a project never setup those features as a > graduation goal. > > Including specific features could be valid concern for release discussion, > but i don't think it's related to a graduation. > > Graduation is much more like if project is doing it in apache way, in my > understanding. Last time the reason why i didn't go for a graduation vote > is, because of there were valid concern about contribution impasse. > > Since that, community improved / clarified contribution guide and review > process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were trying to help many contributions > that they have been as a open PR for a long time. (Especially Jongyoul and > Felix helped a lot) > > So, let's move discussions like 'which feature should be included' to the > release / roadmap discussion. > In the graduation discussion, i'd like to have an discussions, such as > evaluating > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html, > etc. > > Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, Eran, Sourav? > > Thanks, > moon > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> No Eran is right. The last vote for graduation passed-it was not withdrawn >> in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed and there was some feedback from the >> mentors concerning graduation, R, and some other issues. And that's the >> last public discussion about graduation until today. >> >> Alex if you disagree with that do you have links to the discussion emails >> that you're referring to. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Eran, >>> >>> thanks for sharing your oppinion! >>> >>> Could you please check my previous reply about release schedulle and let >> us >>> know if that makes sense to you? >>> >>> By the way, please our mentors correct me if I'm wrong here, but after >>> reading [1] I was under impression that project does not have pre-request >>> regarding its code or features in order to undergo this formal procedure >> of >>> graduation. >>> >>> [1] >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Graduating+from+the+Incubator >>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran Witkon <eranwit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> If I recall correctly R support was one of the pre-requisite for >> graduation >>>> from day one. >>>> I agree that Authentication should be added as well. >>>> +1 for graduation after we add both >>>> Eran >>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav Mazumder < >> sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Surely I vote for the same. Zeppelin is already very popular in >> different >>>>> quarts of the Spark/Big Data user group. High time to graduate it to >> top >>>>> level. >>>>> >>>>> However, I shall suggest to have the support for R and Authentication >>>> added >>>>> to Zeppelin before that. These are the supports most of the people are >>>>> eagerly waiting for. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Sourav >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Alexander for resuming the discussion. >>>>>> Let's start a vote. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> moon >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 PM Alexander Bezzubov <b...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Zeppelin developers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> now, after number of releases and committers grew more I'd like to >>>>>> suggest >>>>>>> the re-new the discussion of graduating Zeppelin to top level >>>> project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there are on objections - next step would be to start a VOTE >>>> thread >>>>>>> here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you guys think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Alex >>>> >>