Enthusiastic +1 for moving on to a community vote
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Jongyoul Lee <jongy...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Note that Graduation has nothing to do with code readiness (e.g > enterprise > > readiness) as you can see also in the DISCLAIMER. > > > > Its all about community and The Apache Way of community over code. > > > > On Monday, April 4, 2016, Prabhjyot Singh <prabhjyotsi...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I was expecting this ( > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-zeppelin/pull/702#issuecomment-203680677 > > > ) to get merged, that or one of R/sparkR interpreter. > > > With that a definite +1. > > > > > > We do need to work more on enterprise readiness like making it more > > secure, > > > have better authorization. > > > > > > On 4 April 2016 at 22:04, 강민우 <minwoo.k...@outlook.com <javascript:;>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:54 AM -0700, "Bruno Bonnin" < > > bbon...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > 2016-04-04 17:45 GMT+02:00 DuyHai Doan <doanduy...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:;>>: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Victor Manuel Garcia < > > > > > victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2016-04-04 17:37 GMT+02:00 Ahyoung Ryu <ahyoungry...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:;>>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > BIG +1 for graduating Zeppelin. > > > > > > > There is no more reason to delay this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > Ahyoung > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2016년 4월 5일 (화) 오전 12:08, Luciano Resende < > luckbr1...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:;>>님이 > > > > 작성: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 on graduating Zeppelin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:24 AM, moon soo Lee < > m...@apache.org > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since last answer from Damien, there hasn't been much > > > discussions > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > > If all concerns are answered and explained well enough, > then > > > > shell > > > > > we > > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > > > on to the vote? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:41 AM Corneau Damien < > > > > > > cornead...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find the list of PPMC here [1], although it > doesn't > > > > > include > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > affiliations. > > > > > > > > > > We do not currently have commiters only status in the > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Informations about how to become a Committer is inside > the > > > > > > > Contributing > > > > > > > > > > document of the project [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the selection, we follow the usual Apache Process: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Discussion on inviting a new member is created on the > > > > @private > > > > > > > > mailing > > > > > > > > > > list (any PPMC can create a discussion) > > > > > > > > > > * PPMCs are voting on that thread > > > > > > > > > > * If the vote is a success, an invite will be sent to > that > > > > > person, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > result is published on the mailing list if the invite is > > > > > accepted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zeppelin.html > > > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-zeppelin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#becoming-a-committer > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2016 4:42 PM, "Jeff Steinmetz" < > > > > > > > jeffrey.steinm...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mainly for clarity (as I may have missed such a > summary) > > - > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a summary that exists (or perhaps we could > reply > > > > here) > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > outlines: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's the process within the zeppelin project to add > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > Committers and/or PMC members? > > > > > > > > > > > Who selects the people for these roles, and is there > > > > diversity > > > > > > > beyond > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > affiliation/company in terms of who is selecting > > additional > > > > > > > > committers > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > PMC members? > > > > > > > > > > > Who are all the current PMC members and affiliations? > > > > > > > > > > > Who are all the committers and affiliations? > > > > > > > > > > > How would we know if you desire more members? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator > > > > > > > > > > > Although - it's one large list with several incubator > > > > projects > > > > > > vs > > > > > > > > > > > zeppelin alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff Steinmetz > > > > > > > > > > > Principal Architect > > > > > > > > > > > Akili Interactive Labs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/16, 9:31 PM, "moon soo Lee" <m...@apache.org > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Correction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And programmer is a requirement of (P)PMC [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And programmer is not a requirement of (P)PMC [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > >moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:30 PM moon soo Lee < > > > > m...@apache.org <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Appreciate Amos, for sharing thoughtful concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> If i add more answer, > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> So far, Zeppelin has 8 PPMC from 4 different > > > affiliations. > > > > > > And 5 > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > >> is work in the same company. 3 of them from 3 > > different > > > > > > > > affiliation > > > > > > > > > > > invited > > > > > > > > > > > >> since it's incubation. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I personally think all 3 are good programmer, but it > > may > > > > > > depends > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > >> you define 'programmer'. And programmer is a > > requirement > > > > of > > > > > > > (P)PMC > > > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> In point of view of survival, Zeppelin will still > have > > > at > > > > > > least > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > >> different PPMC from 3 different affiliation, in the > > case > > > > of > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > PPMC > > > > > > > > > > > >> disappearing from any particular affiliation. > Project > > > > still > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > > >> any decisions. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Diversity of PPMC affiliation is not a requirement > of > > > > > > graduation > > > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > > > > >> to this thread [2] (I guess this is the email that > > Roman > > > > > > > mention). > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I think meaning of 'diversity' is not limited to > > > > > affiliation. > > > > > > > > > > > 'Diversity' > > > > > > > > > > > >> can be location, language, nationality, gender, > > > > background, > > > > > > > > > > experience, > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > >> so on. In this perspective, I think Zeppelin PPMC > are > > > > quite > > > > > > > > diverse. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> One person could have more commits than others. > > > > > > > > > > > >> But that doesn't give more votes because of that. > All > > > > people > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > >> single vote, that's effective particularly making > > > decision > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Regarding diversity of view points, > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> To me, I always see different opinions, ideas on > > comment > > > > of > > > > > > > > PR/issue > > > > > > > > > > > (most > > > > > > > > > > > >> discussions are happening on PR/issue) whether > they're > > > > > strong > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > not, > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > >> most of them, eventually converged. I'd like to see > it > > > > > > 'mature' > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > 'no > > > > > > > > > > > >> disagreement'. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> And many different of features and improvements has > > been > > > > > > > discussed > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > >> contributed from various people/organizations, most > of > > > > them > > > > > > > > actually > > > > > > > > > > > not on > > > > > > > > > > > >> the roadmap. Thats another form of diversity I can > see > > > > from > > > > > > > > Zeppelin > > > > > > > > > > > >> community. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Although no one blocks post email or leave comment > on > > > any > > > > > > > > > discussion, > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > >> we feel we need more diversity of view point, we can > > > > always > > > > > > > > improve > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > >> explicitly encourage participating discussion from > > > > > Zeppelin's > > > > > > > > > > > contribution > > > > > > > > > > > >> guide, or by any other way. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> [1] > > > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc > > > > > > > > > > > >> [2] http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb > > > > > > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201507.mbox/%3c20150721204853.gg28...@boudnik.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > >> moon > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM Roman Shaposhnik < > > > > > > > > > > ro...@shaposhnik.org <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Amos Elberg < > > > > > > > > > amos.elb...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > The one that is a graduation issue, concerns the > > > > > diversity > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > PMC, > > > > > > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > whether graduation is being rushed. The project > > > still > > > > is > > > > > > > > largely > > > > > > > > > > > >>> centered > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > around one individual and company. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> FWIW: the diversity requirements around company > > > > affiliation > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > been, > > > > > > > > > > > >>> if not de-emphasized, but made at least less of a > > > concern > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > past > > > > > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > > > >>> years. Search for emails from Roy Fielding on that > > > > subject. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Another concern that you are raising -- the lack of > > > > > diversity > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > view > > > > > > > > > > > >>> points > > > > > > > > > > > >>> is quite real in my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > As another example, I don't think we ever > discussed > > > > what > > > > > to > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > >>> having > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > fallen behind the roadmap. Instead of looking at > > how > > > > to > > > > > > get > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > meet > > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > standard, we adjusted the standard. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> That is, also, strictly speaking not a problem. > > > Interest > > > > in > > > > > > > > > projects > > > > > > > > > > > >>> waxes and wanes > > > > > > > > > > > >>> all the time. ASF is not a commercial entity -- > > we're a > > > > > bunch > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > >>> volunteers and > > > > > > > > > > > >>> lulls are to be excepted. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Roman. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Luciano Resende > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > > > > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Victor Manuel Garcia Martinez* > > > > > > *Software Engeenier > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > *+34 672104297 | victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript:;> < > > > victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript:;>>* > > > > > > * | > > victormanuel.garcia.marti...@bbva.com > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > > <victormanuel.garcia.marti...@bbva.com <javascript:;>>* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.beeva.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thankx and Regards, > > > > > > Prabhjyot Singh > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my Mobile device > > > > > > -- > 이종열, Jongyoul Lee, 李宗烈 > http://madeng.net > -- -- Kind regards, Alexander.
