Note that Graduation has nothing to do with code readiness (e.g enterprise readiness) as you can see also in the DISCLAIMER.
Its all about community and The Apache Way of community over code. On Monday, April 4, 2016, Prabhjyot Singh <prabhjyotsi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was expecting this ( > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-zeppelin/pull/702#issuecomment-203680677 > ) to get merged, that or one of R/sparkR interpreter. > With that a definite +1. > > We do need to work more on enterprise readiness like making it more secure, > have better authorization. > > On 4 April 2016 at 22:04, 강민우 <minwoo.k...@outlook.com <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:54 AM -0700, "Bruno Bonnin" <bbon...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > 2016-04-04 17:45 GMT+02:00 DuyHai Doan <doanduy...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>>: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Victor Manuel Garcia < > > > victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > 2016-04-04 17:37 GMT+02:00 Ahyoung Ryu <ahyoungry...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>>: > > > > > > > > > BIG +1 for graduating Zeppelin. > > > > > There is no more reason to delay this. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Ahyoung > > > > > > > > > > 2016년 4월 5일 (화) 오전 12:08, Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>>님이 > > 작성: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 on graduating Zeppelin > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:24 AM, moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org > <javascript:;>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since last answer from Damien, there hasn't been much > discussions > > > for > > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > If all concerns are answered and explained well enough, then > > shell > > > we > > > > > > move > > > > > > > on to the vote? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:41 AM Corneau Damien < > > > > cornead...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find the list of PPMC here [1], although it doesn't > > > include > > > > > the > > > > > > > > affiliations. > > > > > > > > We do not currently have commiters only status in the > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Informations about how to become a Committer is inside the > > > > > Contributing > > > > > > > > document of the project [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the selection, we follow the usual Apache Process: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Discussion on inviting a new member is created on the > > @private > > > > > > mailing > > > > > > > > list (any PPMC can create a discussion) > > > > > > > > * PPMCs are voting on that thread > > > > > > > > * If the vote is a success, an invite will be sent to that > > > person, > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > result is published on the mailing list if the invite is > > > accepted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zeppelin.html > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-zeppelin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#becoming-a-committer > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2016 4:42 PM, "Jeff Steinmetz" < > > > > > jeffrey.steinm...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mainly for clarity (as I may have missed such a summary) - > > > > > > > > > Is there a summary that exists (or perhaps we could reply > > here) > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > outlines: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's the process within the zeppelin project to add > > > additional > > > > > > > > > Committers and/or PMC members? > > > > > > > > > Who selects the people for these roles, and is there > > diversity > > > > > beyond > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > affiliation/company in terms of who is selecting additional > > > > > > committers > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > PMC members? > > > > > > > > > Who are all the current PMC members and affiliations? > > > > > > > > > Who are all the committers and affiliations? > > > > > > > > > How would we know if you desire more members? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found this: > > > > > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator > > > > > > > > > Although - it's one large list with several incubator > > projects > > > > vs > > > > > > > > > zeppelin alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > Jeff Steinmetz > > > > > > > > > Principal Architect > > > > > > > > > Akili Interactive Labs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/16, 9:31 PM, "moon soo Lee" <m...@apache.org > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Correction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And programmer is a requirement of (P)PMC [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And programmer is not a requirement of (P)PMC [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:30 PM moon soo Lee < > > m...@apache.org <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Appreciate Amos, for sharing thoughtful concerns. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> If i add more answer, > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> So far, Zeppelin has 8 PPMC from 4 different > affiliations. > > > > And 5 > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > >> is work in the same company. 3 of them from 3 different > > > > > > affiliation > > > > > > > > > invited > > > > > > > > > >> since it's incubation. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> I personally think all 3 are good programmer, but it may > > > > depends > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > >> you define 'programmer'. And programmer is a requirement > > of > > > > > (P)PMC > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> In point of view of survival, Zeppelin will still have > at > > > > least > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > >> different PPMC from 3 different affiliation, in the case > > of > > > > all > > > > > > PPMC > > > > > > > > > >> disappearing from any particular affiliation. Project > > still > > > > able > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > >> any decisions. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Diversity of PPMC affiliation is not a requirement of > > > > graduation > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > > >> to this thread [2] (I guess this is the email that Roman > > > > > mention). > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> I think meaning of 'diversity' is not limited to > > > affiliation. > > > > > > > > > 'Diversity' > > > > > > > > > >> can be location, language, nationality, gender, > > background, > > > > > > > > experience, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >> so on. In this perspective, I think Zeppelin PPMC are > > quite > > > > > > diverse. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> One person could have more commits than others. > > > > > > > > > >> But that doesn't give more votes because of that. All > > people > > > > has > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > >> single vote, that's effective particularly making > decision > > > in > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Regarding diversity of view points, > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> To me, I always see different opinions, ideas on comment > > of > > > > > > PR/issue > > > > > > > > > (most > > > > > > > > > >> discussions are happening on PR/issue) whether they're > > > strong > > > > or > > > > > > > not, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >> most of them, eventually converged. I'd like to see it > > > > 'mature' > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > 'no > > > > > > > > > >> disagreement'. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> And many different of features and improvements has been > > > > > discussed > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >> contributed from various people/organizations, most of > > them > > > > > > actually > > > > > > > > > not on > > > > > > > > > >> the roadmap. Thats another form of diversity I can see > > from > > > > > > Zeppelin > > > > > > > > > >> community. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Although no one blocks post email or leave comment on > any > > > > > > > discussion, > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > >> we feel we need more diversity of view point, we can > > always > > > > > > improve > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > >> explicitly encourage participating discussion from > > > Zeppelin's > > > > > > > > > contribution > > > > > > > > > >> guide, or by any other way. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> [1] > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc > > > > > > > > > >> [2] http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb > > > > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201507.mbox/%3c20150721204853.gg28...@boudnik.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >> moon > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM Roman Shaposhnik < > > > > > > > > ro...@shaposhnik.org <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Amos Elberg < > > > > > > > amos.elb...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > The one that is a graduation issue, concerns the > > > diversity > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > PMC, > > > > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > > > > >>> > whether graduation is being rushed. The project > still > > is > > > > > > largely > > > > > > > > > >>> centered > > > > > > > > > >>> > around one individual and company. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> FWIW: the diversity requirements around company > > affiliation > > > > > have > > > > > > > > been, > > > > > > > > > >>> if not de-emphasized, but made at least less of a > concern > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > past > > > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > >>> years. Search for emails from Roy Fielding on that > > subject. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Another concern that you are raising -- the lack of > > > diversity > > > > > of > > > > > > > view > > > > > > > > > >>> points > > > > > > > > > >>> is quite real in my opinion. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > As another example, I don't think we ever discussed > > what > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > >>> having > > > > > > > > > >>> > fallen behind the roadmap. Instead of looking at how > > to > > > > get > > > > > to > > > > > > > > meet > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > >>> > standard, we adjusted the standard. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> That is, also, strictly speaking not a problem. > Interest > > in > > > > > > > projects > > > > > > > > > >>> waxes and wanes > > > > > > > > > >>> all the time. ASF is not a commercial entity -- we're a > > > bunch > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > >>> volunteers and > > > > > > > > > >>> lulls are to be excepted. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >>> Roman. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Luciano Resende > > > > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Victor Manuel Garcia Martinez* > > > > *Software Engeenier > > > > * > > > > > > > > *+34 672104297 | victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript:;> < > victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript:;>>* > > > > * | victormanuel.garcia.marti...@bbva.com > <javascript:;> > > > > <victormanuel.garcia.marti...@bbva.com <javascript:;>>* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.beeva.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thankx and Regards, > > Prabhjyot Singh > -- Sent from my Mobile device
