On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Ian Clarke wrote:

> Jim Dixon wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Java is distributed under license.  That license requires that the end
> > user acknowledge Sun's copyright.  Silent installation is a copyright
> > violation, it breaks the license.
>
> If true, why would they document that functionality on their website?

Do they?

> The solution is simple, add Sun's copyright notice to the GPL such that
> the user agrees to both when they install Freenet.

Sun's licenses are long, complicated, and often quite precise.  The one
that comes with J2SE begins with:

READ  THE  TERMS  OF  THIS   AGREEMENT   AND  ANY   PROVIDED
SUPPLEMENTAL   LICENSE  TERMS   (COLLECTIVELY   "AGREEMENT")
CAREFULLY  BEFORE  OPENING THE SOFTWARE  MEDIA  PACKAGE.  BY
OPENING THE SOFTWARE  MEDIA  PACKAGE, YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS
OF  THIS  AGREEMENT.  IF  YOU  ARE  ACCESSING  THE  SOFTWARE
ELECTRONICALLY,  INDICATE YOUR  ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS BY
SELECTING THE "ACCEPT" BUTTON AT THE END OF THIS  AGREEMENT.
IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL THESE TERMS, PROMPTLY  RETURN THE
UNUSED  SOFTWARE TO YOUR PLACE OF PURCHASE  FOR A REFUND OR,
IF THE  SOFTWARE  IS  ACCESSED  ELECTRONICALLY,  SELECT  THE
"DECLINE" BUTTON AT THE END OF THIS AGREEMENT.

If you intend to redistribute the software, you need to comply with
the license.  In other discussions I have been assured that you must
get the end user to click on their button, as in fact it says in
line 7 above.


I just downloaded j2sdk-1_4_2_02-linux-i586.bin.  When you run this, it
displays the license notice and then asks:

        Do you agree to the above license terms? [yes or no]

If you don't say yes, it won't install.

If that isn't enough, the license includes:

B. License to Distribute Software. Subject to the terms and conditions of
     this Agreement, including, but not limited to the Java Technology
     Restrictions of these Supplemental Terms, Sun grants you a
     non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license without fees to
     reproduce and distribute the Software, provided that (i) you distribute
     the Software complete and unmodified (unless otherwise specified in the
     applicable README file) and only bundled as part of, and for the sole
     <etc>

This goes on and on and is repeated elsewhere.  What they are saying is
that you can only redistribute the bin file as-is.  If you do so, the user
does the installation and agrees to their license while doing so.

In other words, they really want the user to agree to their license, and
they don't want you getting between them and the user.

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Jim Dixon  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   tel +44 117 982 0786  mobile +44 797 373 7881

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