Le 10/02/2014 09:59, "Ola Fosheim Grøstad" <ola.fosheim.grostad+dl...@gmail.com>" a écrit :
On Monday, 10 February 2014 at 04:26:10 UTC, Manu wrote:
The only company I know of that has made a commercial commitment to D
is a
AAA games company...

Unfortunately a AAA games company is not setting down the goal post for
D. As long as the leads for the project have as their primary interests:
non-real-time stuff and STL-like-libraries things won't develop in your
(and mine and Fransescos) direction.

It won't happen until the leads of the project COMMIT to a MEASURABLE
goal and a major effort is made to meet that goal. That means putting
other goals aside until that measurable goal has been met.

Sorry, I obviously mean, "the only *games* company..."

Yeah, but that games company needs to commit to taking a lead role so
that the goal post and vision changes in that direction.

And people seem to forget promptly after every single time I repeat
myself:
 * The GC frequency of execution is directly proportional to the
amount of
_free memory_. In console games; NONE.
 * The length of the associated pause is directly proportional to the
amount of memory currently in use. In console games; all of it.

This doesn't only describe games, it describes any embedded environment.

I've already stated that I don't believe in using D for anything
multi-media.


????
So in these case I will forget D, and cry all the tears of my body. It will just a shame for a system language. And it's certainly kind of applications actually miss for D, to improve his visibility.

Just take a look around you all applications are interactive, with more animations,...


It is not part of the project vision to be good at that from what I am
seeing, and I am not going to believe it is going to be good for that
until the project leads commit to measurable goals.

The leads believe in meritocracy, that means the project will flail
around in any direction that is fun. That means there are no rails.
There is no reason to pull or push a train that is not on rails. To get
D to be a true better C++ you need a concerted effort.


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