Btw, I have no issue with code-d on linux, but on windows why havent you try visuald ide? I belive it is one of the best D ide on windows right now and if I remember correctly it is part of standard D installer
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Kozak <kozz...@gmail.com> wrote: > I do not see any problem with D community. It is one of the best community > I known btw. I would like to have better IDE support for D too, but this is > something I do not see comming until Jetbrains make it for us (and I do not > see why would they do this until D is much more popular) > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Benro via Digitalmars-d < > digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 16 May 2017 at 23:17:10 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote: >> >>> >>> Grow up!!!!! >>> >>> ! is not yelling. It makes no sound, has no meaning, and only exists to >>> insert in to tight anuses that have no life. >>> >> >> Thank you for your helpful comment. >> >> I wonder if the inability for D community to grow is not more related to >> the fairly noticeable arrogant attitude of its members. >> >> One only need to read past messages on this forum to see the exact same >> issue over and over again. People mention issues and the standard response: >> "Why do you not do x" or act with a sense of superiority. >> >> Maybe too many people have been D member too long but its obvious that >> there are too many steps for new users to use D, unlike with other new >> languages. >> >> D as a language is fairly feature complete. But everything around it just >> screams "skipped leg day". >> >> Lets see with other languages? >> >> Go: Full working IDEs where things just work out of the box. >> >> ** IntelliJ: You can simply get Gogland and it works great. >> ** VSC: vscode-go work perfectly. >> >> Rust: >> >> ** IntelliJ: intellij-rust plugin works great, few steps required. >> ** VSC: vscode-rust ... >> >> I am using these languages because they are young languages. Despite that >> they outrun D on several fronts. >> >> It takes me 10 minutes in other languages to get a full working IDE with >> lots of Editor/IDE choices. It takes time, hours of reading, compiling, >> configuring to try and get a full working IDE on D. And no, color syntax >> does not count. >> >> I do not want to disparage the D plugin authors but one only needs to see >> the update history of all the D, Go, Rust, ... plugins to see the >> difference in activity. There is a lack of passion. Maybe its just my >> impression but this language seems to be support really by maybe a dozen >> people at best. What happens if Walter and Andrei call it quits? Or god >> forbids anything happens to them. >> >> >> I do not know about you but posting a point of criticism in the other >> communities does not result in such drama. Maybe people have gotten too >> sensitive and desperate for protecting the language that criticism is >> considered bad. >> >> But you think that responses like "if you would have took the time to >> report it!". No ... when i report issues in the other languages, nobody >> acts like that. Even if it was a misunderstanding, i notice people jumping >> on each other here WAY too much in previous posts. >> >> Let me mention how a few other languages do things: >> >> Predictable release schedules: Rust every 6 weeks a release. Go six month >> release a release. D? Whenever? >> >> Plugin support: Well, see above. Even the Google able Editor/IDE wiki >> page is out of date ( https://wiki.dlang.org/IDEs, >> https://wiki.dlang.org/Editors ). From my understanding there are about >> 4 or 5 plugin/editors that have some life in them. All the rest seems >> abandoned. Inviting is it not? >> >> Community: Outside this forum almost non existing unless you consider >> reddit/programming. Where other languages have active communities outside >> there main side / forum. >> >> Proposals: DIP how many gave gotten accepted, that are NOT part of the >> main developers like Walter and Andrei. Most seem to turn into a slugfests >> for ages and they slowly die. Other languages seems to have a much more >> inviting attitude towards proposals. >> >> Tooling: Split, manual compile jobs, not part of the main installation. >> >> dmd, rdmd why do they even exist in this wat? rdmd needs to be default. >> Nothing more fun as trying to get a module to run, getting a cryptic >> message only to find out you need to use rdmd or use dmd with flags link to >> it. What are we 1980's? >> >> Even the default dmd info is too much. User friendly it is not. The >> advanced information needs to be behind a flag, not dumped onto a user his >> screen. >> >> It feels like C++ software from the 80s that assumes that ever user can >> spend a few hours reading / understanding each flag. >> >> >> How about focusing on one compiler instead of splitting your community in >> three. Its a wast of resources. There is a clear lack of people to support >> the language and this attitude of running people off. Great idea <sarcasm>. >> >> >> Its no wonder that Go, Rust simply jumped over D. Its not about corporate >> backers, its about how the community is build up. >> >> >> I can go on but it feels like trowing words at a wall. There are a LOT of >> issues that are obvious for any outsider to see after a short amount of >> time. >> >> >> Deal with these comments how you like. Maybe you think i am trolling but >> that make me the most stupid Troll to wast so much time writing this. >> >> Frankly, i like the D language but there is a instant dislike to this >> community. Like most people i do not have the time to deal with drama. This >> is my last attempt at going with D. Good day to you Sir! >> > >