Walt- All that is fine, but, unless I am badly off base, your examples are all voice Comms, not digital. I can support that 100%. Or did I miss something? My problem is in changing the structure of most of Ham radio to accommodate features that should be a part of the "official" infrastructure, as redundant capability, in the first place. It's not anything new to the Government service- let them ask NASA- I have watched unbroken visual coverage of live Shuttle operations through multiple orbits. To do that, they had to use multiple paths and links, so someone out there knows how. Those procedures can be transferred to surface-based, dedicated channels outside the Ham bands. We can help with trained Operators and back-up, but in their spectrum, like MARS. Bill-W4BSG
At 01:53 PM 9/19/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Bill, > >My scenerio is exact what has been done an several occasions...first >starting with a senior metorogilist sitting at the San Antonio Weather >Serive L Band radar and talking on 40 and 75 meters (through W5SC) to the >NWS Office in Brownsville...W5??. > >Then 8-9 years later, a ham at the NWS in New Braunsfels let one of the >NWS guys talk on his HF rig again to the NWS in Brownsville...this time >feeding data from the EWX SAn Antonio-Austin Doppler Radar to Brownsville. > >Late, perhaps 2-3 years later, the NWS office in New Barunfels, using >their own amateur radio callsign and HF equipment, gave vital weather >information to the NWS office in Corpus Christi, Texas. In all three of >these cases, the NWS offices could not contact each other by the Internet >or telephone. The only communications they had was via amateur radio. > >Real stuff Bill...it happens and is likely to happen again. But giving >critical weather information by voice isn't nearly what is desired...near >realtime data can prevent the loss of many lives. > >Walt/K5YFW > >-----Original Message----- >From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:14 PM >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [digitalradio] 16QPSK Modulation and Baud > > > >Walt- I will agree that this is a desirable capability, and I will agree >that Hams should *Within reason* provide emergency Comms, but I DO NOT see >this scenario as a proper part of Ham service. Especially if it requires >drastic changes in our service constraints. >Really- this is an extreme case, and I am truly surprised at you for >putting it out as a serious option. (Or, was it?) >Bill-W4BSG > >At 09:41 AM 9/19/2006 -0500, you wrote: > > >Let me give one incident where high through put would be most desirable... > > > >When hurricanes hit the Texas Gulf Coast, all but radio communications > >can be lost between Brownsville, Texas to Houston, Texas. The weather > >stations there may have their eather radars operational but unable to send > >the "picture" or data to other weather stations. A highspeed, error free, > >robust, realtime, HF data mode is needed. The radar information may be > >7.50 K bytes or larger. This data would need to be repeated every 5-10 > >minutes during critial stages of a hurricane. > > > >Walt/K5YFW > >Bill Aycock - W4BSG >Woodville, Alabama > > > > >Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > >Other areas of interest: > >The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ >DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > >Other areas of interest: > >The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ >DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Bill Aycock - W4BSG Woodville, Alabama Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/