Hello Rick, > why I am not able to send messages using DTM and DBM ARQ. Especially > helpful would be those who are using Multipsk. We could see what happens step by step either in the Multipsk Yahoo group or directly through mails (f6cte at free.fr) .
73 Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: [hfdec] HFLinknet Feedback and Tips - The End >I am not sure of why you wrote this as tips for using your system, but I > can assure you it did not help me or anyone else in attempting to send > messages. I am speaking of the longer messages, not the SMS type > messages that some of us have been able to get through using AMD. After > spending a number of hours and getting minimal results, it does get to > a point of either asking for help or moving on and having to write the > system off as unworkable (at least for me). > > Many of us have different goals but we can still use the same system. > Perhaps I don't use your system in the way that you envision. Most would > call that experimentation. You seem to be hostile to this. That is > unfortunate. Our vision is to find those methods that actually work for > our needs. I am not even involved in using beaconing, since is not > necessary for using the system in the way that we are using it. > > Even if WD8ARZ does not wish to help me in figuring out the correct > procedure, I would appreciate help from any other source in determining > why I am not able to send messages using DTM and DBM ARQ. Especially > helpful would be those who are using Multipsk. > > Thanks in advance. > > Rick, KV9U > > > > WD8ARZ wrote: >> Rick, sometimes I get the impression you feel you are not being heard. I >> assure you that you are. However there is a difference between being >> heard >> and not agreeing with you. You are welcome to have your opinion (such as >> whither ale is a beacon or not), but it is not backed up by the years of >> activity with Ale and with the FCC on this matter. I am simply not going >> to >> rehash what has already been covered on this topic ad nausem already. >> Those >> more talented and experienced then me have communicated with you many >> times >> to work out your issues, apparently to no avail. >> >> It is clear that the HFN Pilot Ale Stations / System has chosen a goal >> that >> is very worth while. It has become one of the few organizations in the >> world >> that are focused on a global picture of connectedness, mainly efforts to >> help the other frontline EMCOMM organizations talk to each other. I think >> that is the key to our future with this effort. The HFN pilot system has >> become "the killer app" for ALE in ham radio. To just be able to send a >> simple short message on setting up a schedule due to an event, and >> re-establish connection with other groups or individuals is a critical >> and >> useful function. It is clear that the Ale system is not a whole scale >> messaging system. Other systems are. It is also clear that there are >> those >> that can and have communicated with Ale, as detailed in the recent >> Report: >> ALE HFN Activity for Global Simulated Emergency Test- 3 May 2008. >> >> Last point: When some one, or a group, starts an activity of interest, >> they >> obviously wish to have a focus, a goal, an intentional path of activities >> to >> follow. Those who are interested in it and can constructively support it, >> can do so if they wish. Those that dont or cant support it, or just wish >> to >> being a distraction that is out side the intent of the group, should move >> along. Those that persist in thrusting their points time after time after >> time when many others have attempted to resolve those points with them, >> eventually wear out their welcome. To continue to do so even when not in >> the >> group in question, comes off as if there is a vendetta to carry out. >> >> You are obviously very talented, have used your skills well for amateur >> radio for a long time. It is unfortunate that a smooth match up hasnt >> happened here, but I am sure you are able to continue on as needed with >> the >> rest of your amateur radio life. >> >> Good Luck, best to you, but I am not convinced it is technical help you >> are >> reaching for anymore. >> >> I am now closing out this topic from this end and moving on. >> >> My apologies to others for the bandwidth. >> 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [hfdec] HFLinknet Feedback and Tips >> >> >> >>> The sound card should be within a Hz or so. It is a new Soundblaster >>> variant. I use Multipsk as the software program. I don't think that I >>> put PC-ALE back on the XP box after reloading XP to survive a dual boot >>> mess with Linux. I might try putting PC-ALE back on again if I just can >>> not get anything to work with Multipsk. One other station that has been >>> experimenting as I have indicated to me that there is some kind of issue >>> with a needed space but I am not clear on that. >>> >>> If anyone has had good success with sending e-mail messages, it would be >>> helpful to show the format you used, especially with Multipsk. I may be >>> doing it wrong. >>> >>> I have been on Channel Zero in recent time, but did not receive any >>> help. The HFLink forums Bonnie removed me from a few months back when I >>> asked for help in contacting the FCC to get some clear understanding of >>> the rules when it comes to the stations transmitting beacons. Before >>> that she would block my posting of questions that made her >>> "uncomfortable." Most would give up by then, but I still want to see if >>> it can be useful. Eventually, I will be publishing information on the >>> HFDEC group, etc. as to what I find works or doesn't work. I support >>> other hams to do similarly and let us know of your practical experience. >>> >>> Loss of the two closest stations to my QTH have impacted our area for >>> NVIS operation. Alan, KM4BA has commented that NVIS is not a good thing >>> to be using when you can be going longer distances. I have no idea of >>> why he claims that since I would strongly recommend the exact opposite >>> as much as you possibly can, to not tie up long range (many more >>> potential connects) to a given server. That was often a problem with >>> distant Aplink and Winlink connection attempts in the old days before >>> Winlink 2000. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Rick, KV9U >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at >> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked >> >> Check our other Yahoo Groups.... >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup >> Yahoo! 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