Perhaps we're calling things by the wrong name. What we post on the wiki,
as it says, is 'meeting notes', not official minutes.

Or maybe it's not, I dunno :)


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote:

> Zoë, please see the minutes here for an idea of what's included:
> http://wiki.skullspace.ca/Meeting_notes
> Personally, I can type faster, and for a longer stretch of time, than I
> can write with pencil and paper. That's a good suggestion though, maybe
> something else would work better for me. Maybe I should buy a Stenotype? ;)
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Zoë Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just wondering, are your minutes recording exactly what's said and by
>> whom?
>>
>> The reason I'm asking is when ever I would record minutes from a meeting
>> the only thing I would write out was;
>> -the problem
>> -the action to be taken and by whom (also if there's a 'due date' on
>> that)
>> -or the solution that came of previous actions
>>
>> If you're having trouble keeping up, maybe a change in media would be
>> helpful? I generally wrote to paper and then copied over after that. I
>> found for me personally it was easier.
>>
>> Zoë
>>
>> On May 7, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Ditto, to what Courtney said.
>> When I'm taking notes, if I miss something, I will take note of the
>> current "tape position" (so to speak) so that I can listen to that section
>> later and fill in the missing information.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Courtney Lofchick <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Alex is not transcribing, he is using the recording to ensure that he
>>> didn't miss anything while he was talking.
>>> If we can get volunteer note takers for future meetings, I'm sure
>>> recording will not be necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ian Trump <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Recordings? first I heard of this and I didn't approve of audio
>>>> recordings. I am uncomfortable with the idea of recordings without consent.
>>>>
>>>>  Please have some one make notes and then transcribe. Do not get
>>>> confused over a transcription vs minutes. Minutes are summaries of
>>>> discussions such as Social Planning Task Force report: social date is X,
>>>> tasks assigned are X social planning is moving forward.
>>>>
>>>>  Let's not make this stupid.
>>>>
>>>>  Ian
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-05-07, at 12:04, "Nathan Wild" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Regarding the Social...  The organizing Strikeforce (which as far as
>>>> I can tell is currently Brittany and I - and possibly Ian and Zoe?) will be
>>>> setting the date upon confirmation of the availability of the venue.
>>>>  Brittany was going to call them today, so expect news on this shortly :)
>>>>
>>>>  I will volunteer to take, post and email out minutes for meetings
>>>> that I am able to attend.  In my experience, trying to transcribe audio
>>>> recordings is a daunting task (and one that tends to get put off).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 May 2014 11:54, Courtney Lofchick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is ok to post draft minutes to be approved at the next meeting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Ron Bowes <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So I guess it's a question to them - is it okay to post informal
>>>>>> writeups to discuss@ after the meetings?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Alex Weber <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nate and Brittany have been very involved in those discussions and
>>>>>>> might have more input, but the TL;DR there are some legal issues with 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> preserving original versions of documents, not having things in a
>>>>>>> particular format, not publishing on letterhead, etc. Very different 
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> how we've traditionally done minutes, to be sure.
>>>>>>> We've made steps towards preserving original documents (namely,
>>>>>>> restricting edit access on that wiki page).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Ron Bowes 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is publishing 'perfect' minutes actually necessary for legal
>>>>>>>> reasons? (I really don't know)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  We've always been fairly loose with minutes. I'm okay with
>>>>>>>> calling them 'meeting notes' to post to discuss@, then formalizing
>>>>>>>> them into 'minutes' later for the wiki / records if that makes 
>>>>>>>> anybody's
>>>>>>>> life easier?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Alex Weber <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Converting the audio recording and jot notes to something
>>>>>>>>> resembling minutes is quite a bit of work, that's all. Once minutes 
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> published, we are technically not supposed to edit them (instead, we
>>>>>>>>> provide errata), so there's some pressure to publish "perfect" 
>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>> which slows things down further.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is the issue. Posting to the wiki and emailing them out is
>>>>>>>>> pretty easy. But the offer of assistance is appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If the minutes have been taken (which they must have been, to be
>>>>>>>>>> read), could I please get a copy?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would be pleased to post them to the wiki for everyone else to
>>>>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I rather liked the idea of them being sent out on list too, but I
>>>>>>>>>> realize that is extra work.
>>>>>>>>>>   On May 7, 2014 10:31 AM, "Alex Weber" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Usually we do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ron Bowes <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they still being read out at each meeting? Cuz we're legal
>>>>>>>>>>>> required to do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  On 7 May 2014 05:59, "Alex Weber" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Mostly, I just suck. I've been a bit slow getting them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> published. For example, we had a budget meeting two weeks ago, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sent out the minutes from that yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  soon.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Adrian Stoness <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sue there's been some meetings that have been cancelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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