John, your wasting your time because Tim just doesn't feel anyone is
looking out for his best interest and because we're blind, we're
subject to being snowed. Got news for you Tim , that isn't the case.
Instead of taking such a negative approach, why not take the opposite
and realize that things don't happen as quickly as we like. Point is
your statements might be based on personal experience, I don't know,
but they are way off the mark from my perspective. I assume your using
the Mac? If so, do you find anything about your experience you do
enjoy? I'm just a bit confused by this entire thread once we got
beyond the issue of iTunes. I use iTunes actually a great deal as a
musician. Itunes isn't perfect, but (and we go full circle) it is over
90 percent accessible. I find the store is the greatest challenge, but
for nearly everything else, I've had great success with it. YOu want
to talk about software that's not accessible, lets talk about iWorks
which is something I'd like to see Apple get going. Open Office is
getting there, but it's not even there yet. In the end Tim, you need
to look at the amount of time invested and the results of that
investment. In the scheme of things, Apple really is years ahead in
terms of making OSX etc. accessible as compared to how long it took
for windows-based screen readers to achieve the same results. Does
this make sense now?
On Aug 23, 2008, at 10:59 PM, John Panarese wrote:
No Tim. You are falling back on a weak defense that is pointless
to debate. You are implying that the blind, overall, are lied to or
can be spoon fed anything from anyone. Both assertions are baseless
and foolish. One can make the same claim for the sighted as well
and be equally wrong. In regard to this topic, since the advent of
VoiceOver, I believe Apple's progress speaks for itself. Thus, who
is being forced or fooled into believing what? It amazes me that
when one personalizes an issue, the grounds to defend that issue
become blurred at best. The original subject was iTunes
accessibility. You don't think it's good enough nor will it
improve. Others believe otherwise. I think that's perfectly clear
after all of this, and, again, comes back to opinions. In this
case, though, the body of evidence indicates the latter, as opposed
to the former.
Take Care
John Panarese
