Omar, Yes the restaurant can be liable IF it can be proven that the restaurant supported this activity. The issue becomes how good is our defense.
Justin On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Omar Rassi <omar.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > So if someone snorts coke in a restaurant bathroom, the restaurant is > liable? Again, I should emphasize, I'm not against the idea, I'm just > against creating more regulation when there already exists the law. It > isn't any of our business what life choices people make. > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Omar, >> >> Without policy SynHak becomes compliant with legal issues in the space. >> SynHak created the atmosphere for X to occur. Why? Because we wanted to not >> have rules is not valid legal defense. ESP since it has now been brought up. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Omar Rassi <omar.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Personally, I'm not interested in policing the space, I don't come there >>> to keep on eye on other members and visitors. The law doesn't disappear >>> when you walk through the doors so I'm wondering why the organizing needs >>> to apply more paperwork and wording on the subject. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Torrie Fischer < >>> tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:20:05 Omar Rassi wrote: >>>> > I'm taking this to mean that the liability waiver is not enough >>>> anymore. >>>> > Did something happen at the space recently? I'm not exactly against >>>> this >>>> > idea but so far the majority of people that come to the space and >>>> > participate have been adults of sound mind. Has this gotten so out of >>>> hand >>>> > that people are no longer able to look out for eachother or restrain >>>> > themselves so Synhak Inc. needs to step in and become big brother? >>>> >>>> Yeah, thats my concern. >>>> >>>> I thought we were trying to stay away from pre-emptive rules and were >>>> capable >>>> of policing ourselves like adults, or having in person conversations to >>>> address issues instead of slyly bringing up board vote topics that >>>> apply to >>>> the whole membership three days before board meetings. >>>> >>>> I think we need a bylaw amendment that the agenda for a board meeting >>>> must be >>>> issued in full with any announcement. >>>> >>>> Am I allowed to bring issues up minutes before the board meeting? an >>>> hour into >>>> it? >>>> >>>> I think I'll do that. I'll propose that we stop coddling the community. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > I think we need to set the option for you to be excused for the day >>>> with >>>> > > the possibility of having membership terminated or banned for >>>> > > repeat/egregious behavior. Someone unwilling to cooperate to remove >>>> and >>>> > > mitigate the issue and safety is of concern the police should be >>>> called. >>>> > > >>>> > > I see a drug and alcohol policy as important as our safety >>>> requirements as >>>> > > it put everyone at risk. Not only can SynHak be held liable but the >>>> > > members >>>> > > and board who allow it to continue can be held liable. Safety is of >>>> > > concern >>>> > > as someone could personally feel they are alright to operate >>>> machinery but >>>> > > miss judge they capacity. >>>> > > >>>> > > These are awful concerns and no one likes to think about someone >>>> getting >>>> > > hurt BUT without a policy SynHak can't have a leg to stand on. >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron) < >>>> > > >>>> > > tim.see...@psangelus.com> wrote: >>>> > >> It might need to say something about what the adult alcohol >>>> permitted >>>> > >> behavior is. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> V/R >>>> > >> Tim Seeley >>>> > >> >>>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>>> > >> From: discuss-boun...@synhak.org [mailto: >>>> discuss-boun...@synhak.org] On >>>> > >> Behalf Of Devin Wolfe >>>> > >> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:41 AM >>>> > >> To: discuss@synhak.org >>>> > >> Subject: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Drug Policy >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Hello all, >>>> > >> Up until now there has been no formal drug policy at synhak. But >>>> with >>>> > >> several complaints and concerns raised recently I feel it is time >>>> we >>>> > >> implement one. As a corporation we jeopardise ourselves if we just >>>> turn a >>>> > >> blind eye. Plus working around dangerous tools while under the >>>> influence >>>> > >> is >>>> > >> a liability. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Here is the wording I plan on submitting to the board: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> SYNHAK INC. will not condone, endorse, or allow the use of illegal >>>> drugs >>>> > >> or related illegal activities including but not limited to illegal >>>> drug >>>> > >> use, possession, sale, manufacturing, transfer, providing drugs or >>>> > >> alcohol >>>> > >> to a minor, or consumption of drugs or alcohol by a minor, as >>>> defined and >>>> > >> stated in the Ohio Revised Code, any laws or set of laws >>>> pertaining to >>>> > >> any >>>> > >> location where SYNHAK INC. is at that time conducting business. >>>> This >>>> > >> pertains but is not limited to agents, representatives, volunteers, >>>> > >> members, nonmembers, employees, and contractors. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I would like the hear everyone's opinion on this. Also do we need >>>> an >>>> > >> explicit procedure for discipline or removal if needed? >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Please do not accuse, slander, or otherwise make this a personal >>>> matter. >>>> > >> Keep names out of it. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> In excellence, >>>> > >> Devin Wolfe >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Sent with AquaMail for Android >>>> > >> http://www.aqua-mail.com >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> Discuss mailing list >>>> > >> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> Discuss mailing list >>>> > >> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>> > > Discuss@synhak.org >>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@synhak.org >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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