Justin, my opinion of professionalism is an organization that doesn't need these policies in order to run. With people looking out for each other and themselves, community driven responsibility, and the ability to give fearless feedback to one another, we don't need those kinds of rules on paper to appear professional. We can just be who we are without trying to dress it up.
Now if we prove we aren't able regulate ourselves, then yes, lets please institute a policy and stop it. But to my knowledge there isn't a regular pattern of unprofessional incidents stemming from alcohol or drugs. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Torrie Fischer <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote: > On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:24:47 Tomm Smith wrote: > > Omar, > > I believe for the sake of professionalism standards are being defined to > > "professionalism"? > > Please just no. I don't want to repeat my arguments about how > professionalism > runs contrary to the space. I'm really tired of it, sorry. > > > bring protection over possible liability issues. The concerns raised with > > the rented space is bringing a loose thread over some legal concerns and > > the paperwork establishment and requirements of being a 401(c). I see > this > > as a good thing and constructive to the community. Making the Inc. a > > neutral party to a common syndication of interests. I would foresee the > > community being strengthened by this change, but having some hiccups > > throughout the process of the legal definition. Just a thought though. > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Omar Rassi <omar.ra...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I'm taking this to mean that the liability waiver is not enough > anymore. > > > Did something happen at the space recently? I'm not exactly against > this > > > idea but so far the majority of people that come to the space and > > > participate have been adults of sound mind. Has this gotten so out of > hand > > > that people are no longer able to look out for eachother or restrain > > > themselves so Synhak Inc. needs to step in and become big brother? > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> I think we need to set the option for you to be excused for the day > with > > >> the possibility of having membership terminated or banned for > > >> repeat/egregious behavior. Someone unwilling to cooperate to remove > and > > >> mitigate the issue and safety is of concern the police should be > called. > > >> > > >> I see a drug and alcohol policy as important as our safety > requirements > > >> as it put everyone at risk. Not only can SynHak be held liable but the > > >> members and board who allow it to continue can be held liable. Safety > is > > >> of > > >> concern as someone could personally feel they are alright to operate > > >> machinery but miss judge they capacity. > > >> > > >> These are awful concerns and no one likes to think about someone > getting > > >> hurt BUT without a policy SynHak can't have a leg to stand on. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron) < > > >> > > >> tim.see...@psangelus.com> wrote: > > >>> It might need to say something about what the adult alcohol permitted > > >>> behavior is. > > >>> > > >>> V/R > > >>> Tim Seeley > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: discuss-boun...@synhak.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@synhak.org] > On > > >>> Behalf Of Devin Wolfe > > >>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:41 AM > > >>> To: discuss@synhak.org > > >>> Subject: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Drug Policy > > >>> > > >>> Hello all, > > >>> Up until now there has been no formal drug policy at synhak. But with > > >>> several complaints and concerns raised recently I feel it is time we > > >>> implement one. As a corporation we jeopardise ourselves if we just > turn > > >>> a > > >>> blind eye. Plus working around dangerous tools while under the > influence > > >>> is > > >>> a liability. > > >>> > > >>> Here is the wording I plan on submitting to the board: > > >>> > > >>> SYNHAK INC. will not condone, endorse, or allow the use of illegal > drugs > > >>> or related illegal activities including but not limited to illegal > drug > > >>> use, possession, sale, manufacturing, transfer, providing drugs or > > >>> alcohol > > >>> to a minor, or consumption of drugs or alcohol by a minor, as defined > > >>> and > > >>> stated in the Ohio Revised Code, any laws or set of laws pertaining > to > > >>> any > > >>> location where SYNHAK INC. is at that time conducting business. This > > >>> pertains but is not limited to agents, representatives, volunteers, > > >>> members, nonmembers, employees, and contractors. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I would like the hear everyone's opinion on this. Also do we need an > > >>> explicit procedure for discipline or removal if needed? > > >>> > > >>> Please do not accuse, slander, or otherwise make this a personal > matter. > > >>> Keep names out of it. > > >>> > > >>> In excellence, > > >>> Devin Wolfe > > >>> > > >>> Sent with AquaMail for Android > > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Discuss mailing list > > >>> Discuss@synhak.org > > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Discuss mailing list > > >>> Discuss@synhak.org > > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Discuss mailing list > > >> Discuss@synhak.org > > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > Discuss@synhak.org > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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