On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:34:12 Torrie Fischer wrote:
> On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:24:47 Tomm Smith wrote:
> > Omar,
> > I believe for the sake of professionalism standards are being defined to
> 
> "professionalism"?
> 
> Please just no. I don't want to repeat my arguments about how
> professionalism runs contrary to the space. I'm really tired of it, sorry.

Sorry, that was an inappropriate and unexcellent response.

I think you're looking for more of a makerspace than a hackerspace. I'd love 
to help get one started.

> 
> > bring protection over possible liability issues. The concerns raised with
> > the rented space is bringing a loose thread over some legal concerns and
> > the paperwork establishment and requirements of being a 401(c). I see this
> > as a good thing and constructive to the community. Making the Inc. a
> > neutral party to a common syndication of interests. I would foresee the
> > community being strengthened by this change, but having some hiccups
> > throughout the process of the legal definition. Just a thought though.
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Omar Rassi <omar.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm taking this to mean that the liability waiver is not enough anymore.
> > > Did something happen at the space recently? I'm not exactly against this
> > > idea but so far the majority of people that come to the space and
> > > participate have been adults of sound mind. Has this gotten so out of
> > > hand
> > > that people are no longer able to look out for eachother or restrain
> > > themselves so Synhak Inc. needs to step in and become big brother?
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > >> I think we need to set the option for you to be excused for the day
> > >> with
> > >> the possibility of having membership terminated or banned for
> > >> repeat/egregious behavior. Someone unwilling to cooperate to remove and
> > >> mitigate the issue and safety is of concern the police should be
> > >> called.
> > >> 
> > >> I see a drug and alcohol policy as important as our safety requirements
> > >> as it put everyone at risk. Not only can SynHak be held liable but the
> > >> members and board who allow it to continue can be held liable. Safety
> > >> is
> > >> of
> > >> concern as someone could personally feel they are alright to operate
> > >> machinery but miss judge they capacity.
> > >> 
> > >> These are awful concerns and no one likes to think about someone
> > >> getting
> > >> hurt BUT without a policy SynHak can't have a leg to stand on.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron) <
> > >> 
> > >> tim.see...@psangelus.com> wrote:
> > >>> It might need to say something about what the adult alcohol permitted
> > >>> behavior is.
> > >>> 
> > >>> V/R
> > >>> Tim Seeley
> > >>> 
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: discuss-boun...@synhak.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@synhak.org]
> > >>> On
> > >>> Behalf Of Devin Wolfe
> > >>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:41 AM
> > >>> To: discuss@synhak.org
> > >>> Subject: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Drug Policy
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hello all,
> > >>> Up until now there has been no formal drug policy at synhak. But with
> > >>> several complaints and concerns raised recently I feel it is time we
> > >>> implement one. As a corporation we jeopardise ourselves if we just
> > >>> turn
> > >>> a
> > >>> blind eye. Plus working around dangerous tools while under the
> > >>> influence
> > >>> is
> > >>> a liability.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Here is the wording I plan on submitting to the board:
> > >>> 
> > >>> SYNHAK INC. will not condone, endorse, or allow the use of illegal
> > >>> drugs
> > >>> or related illegal activities including but not limited to illegal
> > >>> drug
> > >>> use, possession, sale, manufacturing, transfer, providing drugs or
> > >>> alcohol
> > >>> to a minor, or consumption of drugs or alcohol by a minor, as defined
> > >>> and
> > >>> stated in the Ohio Revised Code, any laws or set of laws pertaining to
> > >>> any
> > >>> location where SYNHAK INC. is at that time conducting business. This
> > >>> pertains but is not limited to agents, representatives, volunteers,
> > >>> members, nonmembers, employees, and contractors.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> I would like the hear everyone's opinion on this. Also do we need an
> > >>> explicit procedure for discipline or removal if needed?
> > >>> 
> > >>> Please do not accuse, slander, or otherwise make this a personal
> > >>> matter.
> > >>> Keep names out of it.
> > >>> 
> > >>> In excellence,
> > >>> Devin Wolfe
> > >>> 
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> > >>> 
> > >>> 
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