On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:34:12 Torrie Fischer wrote: > On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:24:47 Tomm Smith wrote: > > Omar, > > I believe for the sake of professionalism standards are being defined to > > "professionalism"? > > Please just no. I don't want to repeat my arguments about how > professionalism runs contrary to the space. I'm really tired of it, sorry.
Sorry, that was an inappropriate and unexcellent response. I think you're looking for more of a makerspace than a hackerspace. I'd love to help get one started. > > > bring protection over possible liability issues. The concerns raised with > > the rented space is bringing a loose thread over some legal concerns and > > the paperwork establishment and requirements of being a 401(c). I see this > > as a good thing and constructive to the community. Making the Inc. a > > neutral party to a common syndication of interests. I would foresee the > > community being strengthened by this change, but having some hiccups > > throughout the process of the legal definition. Just a thought though. > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Omar Rassi <omar.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm taking this to mean that the liability waiver is not enough anymore. > > > Did something happen at the space recently? I'm not exactly against this > > > idea but so far the majority of people that come to the space and > > > participate have been adults of sound mind. Has this gotten so out of > > > hand > > > that people are no longer able to look out for eachother or restrain > > > themselves so Synhak Inc. needs to step in and become big brother? > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> I think we need to set the option for you to be excused for the day > > >> with > > >> the possibility of having membership terminated or banned for > > >> repeat/egregious behavior. Someone unwilling to cooperate to remove and > > >> mitigate the issue and safety is of concern the police should be > > >> called. > > >> > > >> I see a drug and alcohol policy as important as our safety requirements > > >> as it put everyone at risk. Not only can SynHak be held liable but the > > >> members and board who allow it to continue can be held liable. Safety > > >> is > > >> of > > >> concern as someone could personally feel they are alright to operate > > >> machinery but miss judge they capacity. > > >> > > >> These are awful concerns and no one likes to think about someone > > >> getting > > >> hurt BUT without a policy SynHak can't have a leg to stand on. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron) < > > >> > > >> tim.see...@psangelus.com> wrote: > > >>> It might need to say something about what the adult alcohol permitted > > >>> behavior is. > > >>> > > >>> V/R > > >>> Tim Seeley > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: discuss-boun...@synhak.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@synhak.org] > > >>> On > > >>> Behalf Of Devin Wolfe > > >>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:41 AM > > >>> To: discuss@synhak.org > > >>> Subject: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Drug Policy > > >>> > > >>> Hello all, > > >>> Up until now there has been no formal drug policy at synhak. But with > > >>> several complaints and concerns raised recently I feel it is time we > > >>> implement one. As a corporation we jeopardise ourselves if we just > > >>> turn > > >>> a > > >>> blind eye. Plus working around dangerous tools while under the > > >>> influence > > >>> is > > >>> a liability. > > >>> > > >>> Here is the wording I plan on submitting to the board: > > >>> > > >>> SYNHAK INC. will not condone, endorse, or allow the use of illegal > > >>> drugs > > >>> or related illegal activities including but not limited to illegal > > >>> drug > > >>> use, possession, sale, manufacturing, transfer, providing drugs or > > >>> alcohol > > >>> to a minor, or consumption of drugs or alcohol by a minor, as defined > > >>> and > > >>> stated in the Ohio Revised Code, any laws or set of laws pertaining to > > >>> any > > >>> location where SYNHAK INC. is at that time conducting business. This > > >>> pertains but is not limited to agents, representatives, volunteers, > > >>> members, nonmembers, employees, and contractors. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I would like the hear everyone's opinion on this. Also do we need an > > >>> explicit procedure for discipline or removal if needed? > > >>> > > >>> Please do not accuse, slander, or otherwise make this a personal > > >>> matter. > > >>> Keep names out of it. > > >>> > > >>> In excellence, > > >>> Devin Wolfe > > >>> > > >>> Sent with AquaMail for Android > > >>> http://www.aqua-mail.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Discuss mailing list > > >>> Discuss@synhak.org > > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Discuss mailing list > > >>> Discuss@synhak.org > > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Discuss mailing list > > >> Discuss@synhak.org > > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > Discuss@synhak.org > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss