On Mon 31/Mar/2025 21:49:27 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:49 AM Daniel K. <[email protected]> wrote:
The problem is that there's no longer a working group. We might blame me
for that; it sure seemed to me like the WG that existed was out of energy
and going in circles, and so I pressed it to get done by a deadline.
The WG obviously took a good deal of time. But that's not a good reason to
shut it down abruptly.
You did not answer my concerns wrt. the necessary document changes if
chosing 2 or 3, and how that would impact WG consensus.
I think upthread this was already answered. Basically, option 1 is the
most work because it requires establishing a venue to complete the task
Since I joined, I do not remember any, "we'll likely abandon failure
reporting" statements being made.
My recollection is that we started tossing around the idea of dropping it
around the time of this thread:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/ul1jf_q_aULEaNMDf6eoF3uFG-c/
The conclusions of that thread were to quickly finish up the document. Not
dropping it. Otherwise, we had eliminated ruf=.
Let me quote John:
I would prefer to clarify the spec to encourage people who send
reports to send them in the right format and otherwise leave it alone.
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/dI1OHjOdROSYNdV-tcFca3rkDjo/
And Barry:
As chair, I agree with John here: we have the document on our queue
and we should wrap it up and get it out. But we should not spend a
great deal of time on it.
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/j1xy-eoU60mAAe6dErXxep_MYTU/
In the last few years, there's been nearly zero work put into developing
that document. The authors occasionally updated it, but in at least one
spot a new version was posted mainly just to reset the six month expiration
clock on the draft. I would say the WG (as a whole) lost interest in
working on it.
That is just consistent with Barry's directive above.
I'm not clear how to measure a WG's energy, especially after closing it.
However, let me ask if, in case we can score a venue to terminate the work
properly, will we then be able to talk about my fix-forwarding draft?
Best
Ale
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