On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 4:48 AM Alessandro Vesely <[email protected]> wrote:

> The WG obviously took a good deal of time.  But that's not a good reason
> to
> shut it down abruptly.
>

I don't think it was abrupt.


>
>
> >> You did not answer my concerns wrt. the necessary document changes if
> >> chosing 2 or 3, and how that would impact WG consensus.
> >
> > I think upthread this was already answered.  Basically, option 1 is the
> > most work because it requires establishing a venue to complete the task
> >
> >> Since I joined, I do not remember any, "we'll likely abandon failure
> >> reporting" statements being made.
> >
> > My recollection is that we started tossing around the idea of dropping
> it
> > around the time of this thread:
> > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/ul1jf_q_aULEaNMDf6eoF3uFG-c/
>
>
> The conclusions of that thread were to quickly finish up the document.
> Not
> dropping it.  Otherwise, we had eliminated ruf=.
>
> Let me quote John:
>       I would prefer to clarify the spec to encourage people who send
>       reports to send them in the right format and otherwise leave it
> alone.
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/dI1OHjOdROSYNdV-tcFca3rkDjo/
>
> And Barry:
>      As chair, I agree with John here: we have the document on our queue
>      and we should wrap it up and get it out.  But we should not spend a
>      great deal of time on it.
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/j1xy-eoU60mAAe6dErXxep_MYTU/
>
>
> > In the last few years, there's been nearly zero work put into developing
> > that document.  The authors occasionally updated it, but in at least one
> > spot a new version was posted mainly just to reset the six month
> expiration
> > clock on the draft.  I would say the WG (as a whole) lost interest in
> > working on it.
>
>
> That is just consistent with Barry's directive above.
>
> I'm not clear how to measure a WG's energy, especially after closing it.
> However, let me ask if, in case we can score a venue to terminate the work
> properly, will we then be able to talk about my fix-forwarding draft?
>
>
> Best
> Ale
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