On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Gareth Hughes wrote:

> David Johnson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > They did release specs (under NDA) to many people (including yourself 
> > through PI/VA Linux).
> 
> 
> Sure, but not to people in the general open source community, and with the demise of 
>PI/VA, I would say the chances of a driver done by anyone other than ATI are slim to 
>nil.  Isn't that what we're talking about?

Well, we (GATOS) do have the docs, under similar NDA. I believe PI/VA was
more "doc-rich" ;) But (looking in them) they document at least basic 3d
functionality (don't know about TL and stuff, have not looked thoroughly
enough). Keep in mind that what we get is much better than nothing but not
as good as we would like. Probably, when ATI writes drivers internally
they rely on talking to their hardware people too much.

                                 Vladimir Dergachev

PS As for Radeon 8500, the major difference seems to be Firewire ports and
new PCI numbers. At least, I was assured that in TV-in regard nothing
changed much.

PSS Doc-rich refers to them allegedly having documentation for iDCT. Now,
for conspiracy people, consider this: Loki had iDCT docs and they are in
trouble, PI/VA got them - and VA is downsizing.. ;) Just kidding..

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