Ok we need to get clear on one thing.. there are two different radeon series 
in question here.

There is the 8XXX series based on the R200 core that supports vertex shaders, 
and then there is the 7XXX series that is based on the same core as the basic 
radeon (i.e. the one that predates the 7XXX and 8XXX naming scheme).  The 
normal Radeon and the 7XXX models are all based on the same core, the 7XXX 
models are faster clocked.

The 8XXX are a different core (R200) and supports vertex shaders.

There are different Radeon LE..

There is the original Radeon LE (mine). 
ATI Radeon LE
ATI Radeon 7500 LE
ATI Radeon 8500 LE

the first 2 cards (radeon le and 7500le are alike, both should work with the 
same driver) the 8500le is not, it's the new core. 

There could be more radeon le models.. like 7200LE (possibly?) if so, it's 
again the same card as the 7500 with SDR ram I think, as opposed to DDR.

What exactly are you trying to do? determine which cards are radeon le and 
which ones aren't? 

On July 10, 2002 07:44 pm, you wrote:
> I have a non-LE Radeon 8500XT 128MB here using PCI ID 0x514C.
>
> Slava Polyakov wrote:
> >On July 10, 2002 09:29 pm, Mike Mestnik wrote:
> >>#
> >>#       List of PCI ID's
> >>#
> >>#       Maintained by Martin Mares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and other volunteers from
> >>the #       Linux PCI ID's Project at http://pciids.sf.net/. New data are
> >>always #       welcome (if they are accurate), we're eagerly expecting
> >> new entries, #       so if you have anything to contribute, please visit
> >> the home page or #       send a diff -u against the most recent pci.ids
> >> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] #
> >>#       Daily snapshot on Tue 2002-07-09 10:00:05
> >>#
> >>
> >>This isn't the only place to find PCI IDs but it seems to explain all the
> >>hardware I have.
> >>
> >>You can take a look at the list if you want, but there's not mention of a
> >>card maid by ATI with an LE in it's name.  The name really isn't
> >> important it's the meaning behind the name.  I've got a "Radeon 7500 QW"
> >> Product ID 0x5157, and I also have A "Radeon QL" Product ID 0x514C, I
> >> didn't look at the sub device to see if That was accurate.  I would like
> >> to know what the Product ID of your "Radeon LE" card is and I'd like to
> >> add it to the data base.  If it is 0x514C then where did you learn that
> >> it's also called an LE, I'm just curious?
> >>
> >>Please in the future make it clear what your talking about to avoid
> >>confusion, it seams to me that the LE's work while the QW's don't It
> >> could be that they have different Product IDs, or that they just need to
> >> be treated as if they did.
> >>
> >>Thank you for your help in sorting this ought.
> >>
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> >I have an ATI Radeon LE, if this will help it's IDed as QD:
> >
> >01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon QD (prog-if
> > 00 [VGA])
> >        Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 008a
> >        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> > ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
> >        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> ><TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
> >        Latency: 32 (2000ns min), cache line size 08
> >        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
> >        Region 0: Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
> >        Region 1: I/O ports at c000 [size=256]
> >        Region 2: Memory at dd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> > [size=512K] Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
> >        Capabilities: <available only to root>
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