On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Mike Mestnik wrote:

>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:29:44 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Mike Mestnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Stefan Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>     Adam Duck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>     Michal Kozlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: lists.sourceforge.net dri-devel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: The Radeon LE?
>
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>#       Daily snapshot on Tue 2002-07-09 10:00:05
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>
>This isn't the only place to find PCI IDs but it seems to explain all the hardware I 
>have.
>
>You can take a look at the list if you want, but there's not mention of a card maid 
>by ATI with an
>LE in it's name.  The name really isn't important it's the meaning behind the name.  
>I've got a
>"Radeon 7500 QW" Product ID 0x5157, and I also have A "Radeon QL" Product ID 0x514C, 
>I didn't look
>at the sub device to see if That was accurate.  I would like to know what the Product 
>ID of your
>"Radeon LE" card is and I'd like to add it to the data base.  If it is 0x514C then 
>where did you
>learn that it's also called an LE, I'm just curious?

The Radeon LE, if I'm not mistaken, is the same PCI ID as the 
regular Radeon 64DDR hardware (0x5144), which is referred to as 
Radeon QD.  I do not know of a way of distinguishing between a 
real Radeon 64DDR and an LE, or any of the other cards which use 
the 0x5144 chip.  I presume you need to use the 
subvendor/subdevice ID, however nobody has bothered since they 
"just work(TM)".

>Please in the future make it clear what your talking about to
>avoid confusion, it seams to me that the LE's work while the
>QW's don't It could be that they have different Product IDs, or
>that they just need to be treated as if they did.

Note also that ATI has not produced Radeon LE boards.  These 
cards were produced aparently by a third party in the APAC region 
as low cost solutions for that region.  ATI has a page on this on 
their website somewhere although I don't have the URL handy.


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