On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 11:04:47PM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> José Fonseca wrote:
> >On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 04:18:15PM +0200, Dieter Nützel wrote:
> >
> >>Mesa3d seems to be affected, too.
> >>
> >>No mesa CVS update for 10 days, now ;-(
> >>My DRI CVS is 12 days old...
> >>
> >>No chance from "old Europe" anymore?
> >
> >
> >I've just checked and the tarballs in
> >http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/projectname-cvsroot.tar.gz for
> >DRI and Mesa3d are just as old as the anonymous CVS server, and from the
> >SF documents there is no other way to directly access the repository
> >(except contact the SF team, but you can't put that in a cron job, can
> >you? ;-)
> >
> >Basically this means that CVS mirroring is impossible and the only
> >solution to the current problem is to move the repository elsewhere.
> 
> Is there a solid alternative to sourceforge?  One with better backing that 
> will keep it going if large numbers of projects start using it?
> 
> >I don't know why the silence from the DRI SF project admins - I'm CC'ing
> >to them now (at least those currently in the active) in the hope to hear
> >what they have to say about this. 
> 
> Not so much silence as a lack of answers...
> 
> >I remind again that this issue should be presented to the SF team to
> >know what's their position and what to expect from the future. This
> >issue [of the unreliable CVS anonymous serving] together with the recent
> >news of closing inactive and old projects may well be a sign that SF is
> >saturating again, but this time the saturation appears to be fought not
> >by further investment, but degrading the quality of the services. If
> >true then it's a matter of time to collapse, or at least be unusable for
> >big projects such as DRI.
> 
> This is a reasonable proposition -- let's start putting a draft together, 
> then.
> 
> -------
> 
> SF admins,
> 
> We're concerned about the recent changes to anonymous cvs access, in 
> particular the way in which changes committed by developers take an 
> extended period (upto days) to become visible to anonymous cvs users.  As 
> we rely heavily on a test/debug/fix cycle that includes input and 
> interaction from anonymous cvs users, this delay represents a real 
> roadblock for our development efforts.  Can you outline the reasons that 
> this has started happening, whether it will be resolved and if so on what 
> timescale?

I've also just read that this CVS problem is being reverted in August,
as it's temporary to reduce load on the primary CVS servers.

Alan.


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