On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 02:14, James Simmons wrote:
> > You are mixing things. Mode setting has nothing to do with rendering. OpenGL
> > is a rendering client. It produces commands sent to the low level kernel
> > driver and provides a 3D API, but it's not the only one. In this regard,
> > fbcon is a client too and XFree 2D accel is another one.
> 
> But we are rendering to draw fonts, clearing a area of the screen,copyarea.
> If we are to have a universal solution it needs to OpenGL. Either that or 
> mode switching stays in the kernel.  

Drawing fonts have _NOTING_ to do with mode switching ! Don't tell me
that you can't make the difference between fbdev and fbcon now ;)

> Speaking of bloat in the kernel. When will the crypto and TCP/IP stack be 
> moved to userspace. The networking code alone is over 17 megs in size. 
> Bloat bloat bloat. 

That has nothing to do with it. If you don't agree, come to KS or OLS
and talk to Linus. Your arguments & comparisons are pointless

Ben.




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