On 7/16/02 10:30 PM, in article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "m b"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First, I don't think you understand what Eclipse actually is. It is
> specifically designed for every sofware company and open source developer on
> the planet to plug their development products into, without spending a cent
> on the licensing, and knowing that everyone else will be doing the same
> thing. Get it? Still not worried?
> Are you aware of anything that has ever happened in history? The "strongest,
> best, biggest, fastest" is ALWAYS superceded by something. As I mentioned,
> IBM and several other "major players" are putting their resources into
> Eclipse.
> 
Well, excuse me for not having that lemming feeling.

So what you're saying is that the whole world should be an Eclipse plugin.
That'll be big news to almost every vendor which produces an IDE out there.
You should let Borland, Omnicore, JetBrains, Jedit, and all the other people
writing some form of IDE or the other know sooner rather than later, so they
stop wasting their time and quickly bow to the mighty IBM.

Secondly, the fact that IBM and several other 'major players' are throwing
its weight behind to me just means that it'll be bloated, suffer from a lack
of focus, and have great marketing. The only people who will really buy into
it are those that one can amuse for hours on end by dangling a shiny object
in front of them.

IBM, the very same company that brought us Websphere, the most bloated and
painful to use application server out there.

If you want to convince people that this is a good idea, you'll need to
provide a more impressive technical argument. Fashion and IBM bootlicking
aren't very convincing to me.

Hani

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