Well, this is an issue.
E.g. at Deutsche Bank the managers would even agree to buy IDEA as is but IF IT
WOULD BE BOXED.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ionut Dogarel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Eap-features] Re: IDEA as an ECLIPSE PLUGIN!

> 
> You're right, I think IDEA will be much more widely
> used if they would do something to help us impress the
> managers.
> 
> Of course IDEA it's the best thing you can get, but
> the managers would still prefer to pay for something
> like Symantec or IBM or SUN...
> 
> 
> 
> --- "P. Ansari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I personally like the idea. The main thing people
> > seem to criticize about
> > IDEA is the slow GUI. If the plugin used SWT this
> > should speed up IDEA quite
> > a bit (and it makes it look more professional to
> > manager-type guys who are
> > making the purchasing decisions.).
> > 
> > But of course there is the disadvantage of SWT no
> > being very cross-platform
> > at the moment...but this should change soon.
> > 
> > Just me 2 Euro Cents
> > 
> > 
> > "m b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >Yes, no, and no, it is in fact one of the
> > stupidest ideas suggested here
> > > >(and that's saying something).
> > > Why is it stupid? In what ways specifically?
> > Please back up your claims
> > with
> > > something more than a hunch.
> > >
> > > >Exactly what would IDEA gain by becoming a
> > > >subset of a smaller, inferior product, that has a
> > lot more inertia,
> > > >terrible
> > > >cross-platform support, and busily playing
> > catchup to IDEA?
> > > First, I don't think you understand what Eclipse
> > actually is. It is
> > > specifically designed for every sofware company
> > and open source developer
> > on
> > > the planet to plug their development products
> > into, without spending a
> > cent
> > > on the licensing, and knowing that everyone else
> > will be doing the same
> > > thing. Get it? Still not worried?
> > > Are you aware of anything that has ever happened
> > in history? The
> > "strongest,
> > > best, biggest, fastest" is ALWAYS superceded by
> > something. As I mentioned,
> > > IBM and several other "major players" are putting
> > their resources into
> > > Eclipse.
> > >
> > > >Incredibly enough, I doubt one of the primary
> > goals of JetBrains is to
> > help
> > > >Ecplise uptake/support/growth. Crazy eh?
> > > In order for JetBrains to help
> > Eclipse/uptake/support/growth people would
> > > have to be using the plugin, and hence BUYING the
> > plugin. So people would
> > be
> > > PAYING Jetbrains and USING their product which is
> > what they probably want.
> > > Crazy eh?
> > >
> > > I love Idea, and I was hoping for some actual
> > insight in this discussion.
> > >
> > > -mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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