See?
This is THE POINT.

--- Igor Karpov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, this is an issue.
> E.g. at Deutsche Bank the managers would even agree
> to buy IDEA as is but IF IT
> WOULD BE BOXED.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ionut Dogarel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Eap-features] Re: IDEA as an ECLIPSE
> PLUGIN!
> 
> > 
> > You're right, I think IDEA will be much more
> widely
> > used if they would do something to help us impress
> the
> > managers.
> > 
> > Of course IDEA it's the best thing you can get,
> but
> > the managers would still prefer to pay for
> something
> > like Symantec or IBM or SUN...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- "P. Ansari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I personally like the idea. The main thing
> people
> > > seem to criticize about
> > > IDEA is the slow GUI. If the plugin used SWT
> this
> > > should speed up IDEA quite
> > > a bit (and it makes it look more professional to
> > > manager-type guys who are
> > > making the purchasing decisions.).
> > > 
> > > But of course there is the disadvantage of SWT
> no
> > > being very cross-platform
> > > at the moment...but this should change soon.
> > > 
> > > Just me 2 Euro Cents
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "m b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> >
>
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >Yes, no, and no, it is in fact one of the
> > > stupidest ideas suggested here
> > > > >(and that's saying something).
> > > > Why is it stupid? In what ways specifically?
> > > Please back up your claims
> > > with
> > > > something more than a hunch.
> > > >
> > > > >Exactly what would IDEA gain by becoming a
> > > > >subset of a smaller, inferior product, that
> has a
> > > lot more inertia,
> > > > >terrible
> > > > >cross-platform support, and busily playing
> > > catchup to IDEA?
> > > > First, I don't think you understand what
> Eclipse
> > > actually is. It is
> > > > specifically designed for every sofware
> company
> > > and open source developer
> > > on
> > > > the planet to plug their development products
> > > into, without spending a
> > > cent
> > > > on the licensing, and knowing that everyone
> else
> > > will be doing the same
> > > > thing. Get it? Still not worried?
> > > > Are you aware of anything that has ever
> happened
> > > in history? The
> > > "strongest,
> > > > best, biggest, fastest" is ALWAYS superceded
> by
> > > something. As I mentioned,
> > > > IBM and several other "major players" are
> putting
> > > their resources into
> > > > Eclipse.
> > > >
> > > > >Incredibly enough, I doubt one of the primary
> > > goals of JetBrains is to
> > > help
> > > > >Ecplise uptake/support/growth. Crazy eh?
> > > > In order for JetBrains to help
> > > Eclipse/uptake/support/growth people would
> > > > have to be using the plugin, and hence BUYING
> the
> > > plugin. So people would
> > > be
> > > > PAYING Jetbrains and USING their product which
> is
> > > what they probably want.
> > > > Crazy eh?
> > > >
> > > > I love Idea, and I was hoping for some actual
> > > insight in this discussion.
> > > >
> > > > -mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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