Yea!  I think Michael should start peeling the banana until they adjust
their point of view....

Robert ;-)-



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen O'Shaughnessy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:01 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Charging a customer for EDI ???????
>
> Read a little closer.  Michael is the 800lb gorilla.
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Mark Kusiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:36 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject: Re: Charging a customer for EDI ???????
>
>
>
>       If a "trading partner" i.e. the 800 LBS of gorilla can get you to
> pay for it, and he usually can, then you are providing a benefit to his
> bottom line.  The key to leveraging his/her EDI investment is to develop
> once and use over and over and over again.  It's the age old business
> solution where they are in the position to demand it their way and also
> get you to pay for it in the process.  He realizes that he can drag you
> along and "dictate" to you what and when and how you are going to do this.
> You ask if this is right, legal or ethical.  The answer for most in the
> banana republic is no, but the gorilla is licking his chops.
>
>       Bottom line is this.....
>
>       If you need the business then you are going to do it.  It now
> becomes a cost of doing business.  Is this a true cost of EDI?  No, you
> are being saddled with the total costs of getting the data to your
> customer.  This skews your prospective on the cost and makes your ROI much
> lower.
>
>       Usually each trading partner shares the cost evenly amongst
> themselves.  The problem is that sooner of later you will run up against
> the 800 LBS of gorilla and if you need the gorilla's business, you'll grin
> and bear it.
>
>       How do you think that he's getting the fantastic leverage on his
> investment that he is going to write about in the next issue of EC World
> magazine.  He's passing his costs off on the banana republic.  One way you
> have to fight back is refuse to do business with him.  The only problem is
> that if your passing on his business, then there is someone hungry enough
> to take your place and go along for the ride.
>
>       For the record, it's these guys that give the EDI community the most
> trouble.  They realize such a fantastic savings from doing business this
> way then they gore everyone else by making them pick up a disproportionate
> amount of the costs.  I guess they never heard the story of the guy who
> killed and ate the goose that laid the golden eggs.  I guess that becoming
> an 800 LB Gorilla makes you go a little weak in the head!!!!!
>
>       Regards,
>
>       Mark
>
>        -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Michael Pokraka [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>       Sent:   Tuesday, September 04, 2001 9:17 AM
>       To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject:        Charging a customer for EDI ???????
>
>       Hi folks,
>
>       A new supplier wishes to charge us for doing biz by EDI.
>       Now, the situ is a little unusual for me, as - to my knowledge - the
> 800lb
>       Gorilla (us for a change) is not normally billed for the
> privilege.... or is
>       it????
>
>       A bit of background:
>       The supplier is a well-known worldwide logistics company, providing
>       warehouse and transport services.
>       The supplier has been contracted with prerequisite to the whole
> thing being
>       that they deal by EDI. Now that the deal is struck, supplier comes
> back and
>       says that EDI is of no benefit to them, but merely a service that
> they
>       provide as part of the package, thus they will charge their customer
> for it.
>
>
>       My question: is this a 'standard' practice? Does that mean that we
> start
>       charging our customers ? :-)
>
>       TIA
>       Michael Pokraka
>       SAP EDI Analyst
>       Samsung Semiconductor Europe Ltd
>       Tel: +44 (0)20 8380-7050
>       Fax: +44 (0)20 8380-7218
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