Jim:
If you have a client that connect to 3 different VANs and Walmart, then by
your approach, you would need to use 4 different comm software packages and
4 different modems if the recommendations of the VANs are different. This
defeats the use of standards. You may as well write custom code to convert
the EDI to a specific format while you are at it. The whole point of EDI is
standardization. Conform to the standards and you can talk to anyone.
cjg
Carl J. Galgano
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-----Original Message-----
From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Divoky
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
I don't know what you find not practical. I've connected to dozens of VANs,
Banks, automotive manufacturers, and
retailers. I work only with large clients and most have long had multiple
connections to trading partners.
Jim Divoky
EC Solutions, Inc.
PO Box 667
Kent, OH 44240-0012
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Galgano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jim Divoky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> Jim:
> Your approach is not practical if you are connecting with more than one
VAN.
> The problem is that some mfg cut corners when implementing standards. I
> agree, you get what you pay for. I pretty much use UDS modems (V3400,
> V3600) because they support everything (except 201/208 stds). I have
> implemented the IBM branded multitech modems many times with the AS/400
and
> have not had any problems.
> cjg
>
>
> Carl J. Galgano
> EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
> 550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
> Marietta, GA 30060
> (770) 422-2995 - voice
> (419) 730-8212 - fax
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Implementation
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> "You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Divoky
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
>
>
> As a former Sterling implementation consultant who made quite a few
special
> trips to sites to do nothing but get the
> modem connection working, I learned the hard way that the best solution is
> to use the modem and software recommended
> by the VAN. At the time for Sterling this usually meant Cleo software and
> hardware. The advantage was both the VAN &
> the hw/sw provider new exactly what you were trying to do. Even then
there
> were gotchas with other VANs or
> proprietary networks. The Cleo people usually had answers. They worked
> with these networks daily. The money saved
> by using a $100 modem was usually lost in implementation costs even if a
> consultant wasn't called in. If you call in
> the consultants you just burn money. Multitech used to be on my list of
> absolutely, positively don't use but that was
> 5 years ago.
>
> Jim Divoky
> EC Solutions, Inc.
> PO Box 667
> Kent, OH 44240-0012
> Providing EDI/EC Consulting and Contracting Services
> Mobile 330-606-6826
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
>
>
> > Multitech modems are also well known to be very problematic because of
> > deficiencies when compared to some other modems.....their inability to
> > filter out line noise, and limited built-in
> > intelligence are just two we have encountered over the years. As
Michael
> > noted, perhaps
> > you might want to investigate other options....
> >
> > Brian Richardson
> > Highlander Technologies, Inc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Burbury
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:03 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> >
> >
> > Dear sir,
> >
> > IBM have stated to me that they distribute the MultiTech modem worldwide
> > under different IBM product codes, yet these modems are <mostly> all the
> > same.
> >
> > If you pick up one of these modems and inspect the underside, you will
> > notice a diagram specifying the DIP switches to set for Async and BiSync
> > operation.
> >
> > Basically the switches for BiSync are as follows:
> >
> > 1 UP
> > 2 UP
> > 3 DOWN
> > 4 DOWN
> > 5 UP
> > 6 UP
> > 7 UP
> > 8 DOWN
> > 9 DOWN
> > 10 UP
> > 11 DOWN
> > 12 UP
> > 13 UP
> > 14 UP
> > 15 UP
> > 16 UP
> >
> > This will set the modem to BiSync with V25bis dialing options.
> >
> > Then, on your AS/400 you will need to set the line/device/controller
> > descriptions to perform V25bis dialing which is basically "CRM nnn-nnnn"
> <--
> > the number to dial. If you set your modem in this fashion, it will
negate
> > it's use for Async operation until the DIP switches are re-set.
> >
> > This is the best I could get from my personal friend who is an IBM guru
> aged
> > 68 and retired.
> > He also stated that finding support on protocols developed in 1973 may
be
> > quite difficult due to most help desk people being skilled on Internet
> based
> > protocols only. You may wish to investigate a different method should
you
> > wish to obtain support from a local helpdesk (which usually employ
people
> > less than 25 years of age whom know nothing about any protocols other
than
> > IP).
> >
> > The V25bis command set manual is 2 inches thick and may be purchased
from
> > IBM if required.
> >
> > Also the line will be half duplex if you use a two wire phone line and
> full
> > duplex if you use a 4 wire phone line and must be specified in your
> > line/device/controller descriptions on the AS/400. If you wish, I can
> > obtain sample line/device/controller descriptions for connecting to GE
> GXS.
> >
> > Lastly, if the modem does not connect within three dialing attempts, it
> will
> > require manual intervention by the AS/400 system operator to re-set the
> > line. This was one of the biggest problems with this method for our
> support
> > people here in Australia.
> >
> > Best of luck,
> >
> > Michael Burbury
> > GE ecXpress Australia.
> > System Administration
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richer, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> >
> >
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > > I'm communicating with Sterling in bisynch mode using Cleo software...
> > >
> > > I know that Cleo support specific modems. Make sure the modem is
> > compatible
> > > with your communication s/w.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bob Reed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:38 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > >
> > > > Yes Sterling has scoped the line and cannot see anything because the
> > > > handshaking doesn't go that far, from what I understand. Also, we
run
> on
> > > > an
> > > > AS400 and are using GENTRAN:Basic for AS/400 provided by Sterling
> > > > Commerce.
> > > > I have tried several banks of modems in different SuperTrax area and
> we
> > > > cannot find a solution. This is very wierd.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Leah Closson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: September 18, 2001 09:26 AM
> > > > To: Bob Reed
> > > > Subject: RE: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are they unable to scope the line while you are dialing up? I'm not
a
> > > > communications person, but I've had other VANs do this and they were
> > > > able to provide some clue as to what the problem was. Also, maybe
IBM
> > > > could help?
> > > > Good Luck,
> > > > Leah
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bob Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:06 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > bisync modem, sorry. It fails at the handshaking part. They are
> > > > handshaking
> > > > and then the lines just drop off
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steve X Lee SL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: September 18, 2001 08:35 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is this a async or bisync modem? What part is failing?
> > > >
> > > > -Steve
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Good Morning,
> > > > I am trying to dial up to Sterling Commerce using an IBM767
> > > > modem
> > > > and seem to be having trouble. I was wondering if anyone else out
> there
> > > > had
> > > > the same modem and was connecting to Sterling Commerce. I have
indeed
> > > > talked
> > > > with Sterling Commerce technical people about it and they have
> suggested
> > > > that it might be a setting that we are both unfamilar with in the
IBM
> > > > modems. Sterling Commerce is using a Paradyne Modem. We have been
> > > > through
> > > > all kinds of testing and can use the same modem to dial out to
Federal
> > > > Express and other Value Added Networks. Any help would be greatly
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Bob Reed
> > > >
> > > >
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