I'm not certain what you think my "approach" is. It certainly doesn't require what
you describe. I doubt if we're
doing anything differently. Years ago I sometimes had to use separate asynch &
bisynch modems and separate software.
In recent years I have never had to use more than a single modem and a single software
package for dial-up and
connected to multiple VANs & Wal-Mart as well as ISPs both asynch & synchronously. I
should point out I haven't work
with legacy hardware for many years. Perhaps requirements there are different. I
don't remember.
Jim Divoky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Galgano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jim Divoky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> Jim:
> If you have a client that connect to 3 different VANs and Walmart, then by
> your approach, you would need to use 4 different comm software packages and
> 4 different modems if the recommendations of the VANs are different. This
> defeats the use of standards. You may as well write custom code to convert
> the EDI to a specific format while you are at it. The whole point of EDI is
> standardization. Conform to the standards and you can talk to anyone.
> cjg
>
>
> Carl J. Galgano
> EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
> 550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Divoky
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
>
>
> I don't know what you find not practical. I've connected to dozens of VANs,
> Banks, automotive manufacturers, and
> retailers. I work only with large clients and most have long had multiple
> connections to trading partners.
>
> Jim Divoky
> EC Solutions, Inc.
> PO Box 667
> Kent, OH 44240-0012
> Providing EDI/EC Consulting and Contracting Services
> Mobile 330-606-6826
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Galgano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jim Divoky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:51 AM
> Subject: RE: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
>
>
> > Jim:
> > Your approach is not practical if you are connecting with more than one
> VAN.
> > The problem is that some mfg cut corners when implementing standards. I
> > agree, you get what you pay for. I pretty much use UDS modems (V3400,
> > V3600) because they support everything (except 201/208 stds). I have
> > implemented the IBM branded multitech modems many times with the AS/400
> and
> > have not had any problems.
> > cjg
> >
> >
> > Carl J. Galgano
> > EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
> > 550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
> > Marietta, GA 30060
> > (770) 422-2995 - voice
> > (419) 730-8212 - fax
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.ediconsulting.com
> > AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
> > Implementation
> > http://www.icecreamovernight.com
> > Premium Ice Cream Brands shipped Overnight
> > FREE AS/400 Timesharing Service -
> > http://www.ediconsulting.com/timeshare.html
> > "You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Divoky
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:46 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> >
> >
> > As a former Sterling implementation consultant who made quite a few
> special
> > trips to sites to do nothing but get the
> > modem connection working, I learned the hard way that the best solution is
> > to use the modem and software recommended
> > by the VAN. At the time for Sterling this usually meant Cleo software and
> > hardware. The advantage was both the VAN &
> > the hw/sw provider new exactly what you were trying to do. Even then
> there
> > were gotchas with other VANs or
> > proprietary networks. The Cleo people usually had answers. They worked
> > with these networks daily. The money saved
> > by using a $100 modem was usually lost in implementation costs even if a
> > consultant wasn't called in. If you call in
> > the consultants you just burn money. Multitech used to be on my list of
> > absolutely, positively don't use but that was
> > 5 years ago.
> >
> > Jim Divoky
> > EC Solutions, Inc.
> > PO Box 667
> > Kent, OH 44240-0012
> > Providing EDI/EC Consulting and Contracting Services
> > Mobile 330-606-6826
> > Pager 877-282-3426 (Toll free)
> > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To send short message to mobile phone:
> > email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> >
> >
> > > Multitech modems are also well known to be very problematic because of
> > > deficiencies when compared to some other modems.....their inability to
> > > filter out line noise, and limited built-in
> > > intelligence are just two we have encountered over the years. As
> Michael
> > > noted, perhaps
> > > you might want to investigate other options....
> > >
> > > Brian Richardson
> > > Highlander Technologies, Inc.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Electronic Data Interchange Issues
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Burbury
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:03 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear sir,
> > >
> > > IBM have stated to me that they distribute the MultiTech modem worldwide
> > > under different IBM product codes, yet these modems are <mostly> all the
> > > same.
> > >
> > > If you pick up one of these modems and inspect the underside, you will
> > > notice a diagram specifying the DIP switches to set for Async and BiSync
> > > operation.
> > >
> > > Basically the switches for BiSync are as follows:
> > >
> > > 1 UP
> > > 2 UP
> > > 3 DOWN
> > > 4 DOWN
> > > 5 UP
> > > 6 UP
> > > 7 UP
> > > 8 DOWN
> > > 9 DOWN
> > > 10 UP
> > > 11 DOWN
> > > 12 UP
> > > 13 UP
> > > 14 UP
> > > 15 UP
> > > 16 UP
> > >
> > > This will set the modem to BiSync with V25bis dialing options.
> > >
> > > Then, on your AS/400 you will need to set the line/device/controller
> > > descriptions to perform V25bis dialing which is basically "CRM nnn-nnnn"
> > <--
> > > the number to dial. If you set your modem in this fashion, it will
> negate
> > > it's use for Async operation until the DIP switches are re-set.
> > >
> > > This is the best I could get from my personal friend who is an IBM guru
> > aged
> > > 68 and retired.
> > > He also stated that finding support on protocols developed in 1973 may
> be
> > > quite difficult due to most help desk people being skilled on Internet
> > based
> > > protocols only. You may wish to investigate a different method should
> you
> > > wish to obtain support from a local helpdesk (which usually employ
> people
> > > less than 25 years of age whom know nothing about any protocols other
> than
> > > IP).
> > >
> > > The V25bis command set manual is 2 inches thick and may be purchased
> from
> > > IBM if required.
> > >
> > > Also the line will be half duplex if you use a two wire phone line and
> > full
> > > duplex if you use a 4 wire phone line and must be specified in your
> > > line/device/controller descriptions on the AS/400. If you wish, I can
> > > obtain sample line/device/controller descriptions for connecting to GE
> > GXS.
> > >
> > > Lastly, if the modem does not connect within three dialing attempts, it
> > will
> > > require manual intervention by the AS/400 system operator to re-set the
> > > line. This was one of the biggest problems with this method for our
> > support
> > > people here in Australia.
> > >
> > > Best of luck,
> > >
> > > Michael Burbury
> > > GE ecXpress Australia.
> > > System Administration
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richer, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bonjour,
> > > >
> > > > I'm communicating with Sterling in bisynch mode using Cleo software...
> > > >
> > > > I know that Cleo support specific modems. Make sure the modem is
> > > compatible
> > > > with your communication s/w.
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bob Reed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:38 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes Sterling has scoped the line and cannot see anything because the
> > > > > handshaking doesn't go that far, from what I understand. Also, we
> run
> > on
> > > > > an
> > > > > AS400 and are using GENTRAN:Basic for AS/400 provided by Sterling
> > > > > Commerce.
> > > > > I have tried several banks of modems in different SuperTrax area and
> > we
> > > > > cannot find a solution. This is very wierd.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Leah Closson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: September 18, 2001 09:26 AM
> > > > > To: Bob Reed
> > > > > Subject: RE: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are they unable to scope the line while you are dialing up? I'm not
> a
> > > > > communications person, but I've had other VANs do this and they were
> > > > > able to provide some clue as to what the problem was. Also, maybe
> IBM
> > > > > could help?
> > > > > Good Luck,
> > > > > Leah
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bob Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:06 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > bisync modem, sorry. It fails at the handshaking part. They are
> > > > > handshaking
> > > > > and then the lines just drop off
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Steve X Lee SL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: September 18, 2001 08:35 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Connecting To Sterling Commerce
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this a async or bisync modem? What part is failing?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Steve
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Good Morning,
> > > > > I am trying to dial up to Sterling Commerce using an IBM767
> > > > > modem
> > > > > and seem to be having trouble. I was wondering if anyone else out
> > there
> > > > > had
> > > > > the same modem and was connecting to Sterling Commerce. I have
> indeed
> > > > > talked
> > > > > with Sterling Commerce technical people about it and they have
> > suggested
> > > > > that it might be a setting that we are both unfamilar with in the
> IBM
> > > > > modems. Sterling Commerce is using a Paradyne Modem. We have been
> > > > > through
> > > > > all kinds of testing and can use the same modem to dial out to
> Federal
> > > > > Express and other Value Added Networks. Any help would be greatly
> > > > > appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Bob Reed
> > > > >
> > > > >
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