Hi Graham,
Graham Lauder wrote:
[...]
No, in actual fact you would.
I'm sorry so, this is not my intention.
If "your" Education Project got off the
ground then it would relegate the present one to obscurity attached to
the back end of the marketing Project as it is. It's hard enough to
find right now, nobody would bother looking further than one that had
"project" status. Thats why marketing to the education Sector needs to
be in an Education Project if there is going to be such an animal.
Ok, no problem if you think it's better.
[...]
Well there you are, I didn't know that either.
So this should be advertise somewhere on the pages about how to belong
and participate to a project. I'll see with Kay or Christian what to do
about it.
Yes, so the project is here since 2003, where are the resources ? Can
you point me to the messages or the material ?
Have you added any? Have you posted on the list saying "I have these
resources available"? Have you offered to set these things up or even
to help in the Education project/pages/doc-files area? Have you posted
suggesting that the project needs more Pedgogical material. The answer
is no! You've done none of that. And you can't say it would be off
topic because this conversation proves otherwise.
Because for me being under a marketing part, this was not obvious that
it was about development also. I recognize I'm wrong as Ian and you
pointed, but even though I still think it's not a good place to have a
www/marketing/education/development/ repository.
[...]
Why not. But marketing is lead by Ian and here, it's up to him to
decide where he want his project be.
Marketing is NOT led by Ian, the Education sub Project was.
It's not HIS project, it's the education communities project, Ian just
happened to be the lead.
Wrong language, sorry. Leading is representing a community of course, I
take a wrong shortcut.
[...]
Yes, you've noticed that marketing doesn't interest me. As nothing
else happen here (which is normal because it has been designed for
that topic) I have nothing to bring.
Marketing is only one part of it. Again I repeat: You haven't posted to
the list and been told your post was off topic have you? Then how can
you say that it's been "designed" for that topic.
Because it is said so in the list archive : this project is grown from
marketing. So I thought it was for marketing and didn't get more
attention to it as there was no development or material shared here.
You never posted to
the list suggesting more pedagogical content. You never posted to the
list voicing concerns about a "marketing focus".
No, why should have done so ? I have no concern about the marketing
focus, and you don't seem to have read it but I think that the work done
here is very valuable, at no moment I want to underestimate it.
If you felt you had
nothing to bring to this list then I say again, surely this
conversation proves that assumption wrong
I don't think I bring anything valuable to the focus of the list currently.
[...]
But it seems to me that this sort of thing can already be a part of
the project. Certainly splitting it in two would seem to be
counter productive. An overarching Education project, with
Marketing and Development as two parallel subprojects would seem
to be a better compromise.
I agree with you, but as said above, it's not up to me to decide
that. What I want to see achieve and is not here yet has nothing to
do with marketing, that's why I'm not proposing something that could
hurt any body : i.e. nobody is currently taking care of education
that is not marketing and I'm offering to do the work.
Great, then do it within the present project or make the present
sub-project a standalone project of it's own.
The present project is not appropriate for development and material. The
"marketing" label unfortunately will prevent people to know about the
development focus.
So, if you all agree here lets have an education project in two parts :
one for development and one for marketing and I'll take care to the dev
part of it.
Kind regards
Sophie
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