I used to design aircraft audio systems for a living, but have been retired a year. The A20 is a nice headset and the audio quality from the mic and headphones is very good, over the wired connection, for safety services (communication with air traffic control).
Listening to stereo entertainment via Bluetooth probably uses the AD2P protocol which is stereo and can be pretty decent qualtiy. I don't know for sure for this headset, but when any Bluetooth device I know of does phone calls and uses the Mic, it switches to the HSP or HFP protocol, which is mono and in my opinion, sounds like crap for both TX and RX. It is lower bandwidth and more compressed. HFP version 1.6 added better audio encoding, but I do not know if it is widely used. It would be a shame to take a $1k headset and make it sound like a $5 headset. I would think there might be some sort of headset to wireless TX/RX adapter that might be available. Jupiter Avionics makes something that claims to do that. I bet it is expensive and I do not see any mention of a TSO certification on the data sheet. I guess if you are not using it for aviation, you may not care. Lots of small aircraft use uncertified stuff anyway. Again, good luck in your search. 73, Mark W7MLG On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 5:17 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > According to a tech at a one of the aviation stores, the latest versions > of the A20 will allow using the headset/mike to access a paired device such > as a smartphone, both to and from. Use it by muting the phone mike and > talking/listening via the A20. > > Talking on a phone in a small plane has the same audio issues as radio > communications with flight service without noise cancellation, etc. The A20 > handles that kind of problem very well. > > The battery and Bluetooth are in an accessible blob on the A20 cord. But > the idea of 1K$ to start with, and then dropping that 1K$ out of warranty > to remove the cord beyond the blob gives me the hives. > > 73, Guy K2AV > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 12:25 AM Mark Goldberg <marklgoldb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Amazon shows the HP8000 available from third party sellers at wildly >> varying prices. Sometimes they are bad or fake unfortunately. They claim >> new, but don't have enough info listed to tell if it meets your criteria. >> >> As far as I know, aviation headsets will not have wireless for the main >> headset or microphone as it is not reliable enough to be certifiable. They >> will have auxiliary bluetooth inputs for entertainment. >> >> I do not know anything that meets your criteria. >> >> Good luck in your search, >> >> Mark >> W7MLG >> >> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> This thread seems to be read by some who are familiar with headsets, but >>> I’m asking a slightly different question... >>> >>> A) I am looking for a headset/mike combination, with *all* the following. >>> >>> 1) over-the-ear dual headset >>> 2) noise-cancelling headset >>> 3) active noise-cancelling boom microphone >>> 4) wireless, either bluetooth or wireless to USB dongle, bluetooth >>> preferred, wireless is *required*. >>> >>> I have tried endless hours of searching, dozens and dozens of different >>> search parms but cannot get Google, eBay or Amazon to make a list with >>> all >>> the required conditions. Something always gets ignored. >>> >>> I know that a Bose A20 aircraft headset can be modified using the battery >>> and Bluetooth parts only of the plug/cordset. That’s modifying a 1K$ >>> headset. >>> >>> There used to be an “HP8000” that seemed to fit the bill, but only sold >>> in >>> EU and Asia. That also was called QD834. It apparently not made now and >>> stock gone. >>> >>> Looking for an answer from someone that knows a manufacturer that makes a >>> model that matches A) 1-4) above. >>> >>> Thank you, thank you, thank you if you know the answer. >>> >>> 73, Guy K2AV >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Chris <ve3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Is it Sony WH-1000XM2? I have one and love it. It is pricey but you >>> get >>> > what you pay for. I tried both Bose and Sony, and chose Sony because >>> it >>> > seems better with noise cancelling. When I fly alone for business, I >>> use >>> > it with low volume music from my iphone, and I barely hear the engine >>> > noise. When I fly with my family, I don't get that luxury. LOL >>> > >>> > I also use it as ear mufflers when I use my lawnmower. I can listen to >>> > music or podcast with very low engine noise from the mower. This is >>> > great. I wire it when I use for radios. >>> > >>> > DE Chris AD1AD >>> > >>> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Dave Sublette <k4to.d...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > So here I am with three hours to wait until my plane boards. I >>> tried a >>> > set >>> > > of Bluetooth Sony noise cancelling headphones. Big mistake. >>> They're >>> > > great. >>> > > >>> > > $300.00 is too much for me. What other models are in use with >>> Elecraft >>> > > folks? >>> > > >>> > > Dave, K4TO >>> > > ______________________________________________________________ >>> > > Elecraft mailing list >>> > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> > > >>> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> > > Message delivered to ve3...@gmail.com >>> > > >>> > ______________________________________________________________ >>> > Elecraft mailing list >>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> > >>> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> > Message delivered to k2av....@gmail.com >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com >>> >> >> -- > Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
