And I've worked all over the world with 5 or 10 watts doing it :)

Wayne


> On Aug 27, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm generally walking when I use the AX1 (pedestrian mobile, or /PM). It 
> isn't possible to elevate the radial under these circumstances; it drags on 
> the ground. The whip is the radiator.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 3:05 PM, David Gilbert <xda...@cis-broadband.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'll try not to beat this into the ground here, but I think the physics here 
>> is important.
>> 
>> As K9YC said in his reply to you, equal currents go in both directions from 
>> the feedpoint ... to the AX1 and to the counterpoise wire.  That's simply 
>> physics, and it's true unless currents on the shield of the coax cause 
>> imbalance ... in which case the coax is doing a bunch of radiating.
>> 
>> Now then, what is important is what happens to those equal currents.  It 
>> doesn't matter if one side of the feedpoint is the AX1 or if it is the 
>> "counterpoise" wire ... they are both simply loads as far as the feedpoint 
>> is concerned.  Read that again ... it is THE critical concept.
>> 
>> Current generates a radiated field.  That is simple physics. Resistive loss 
>> dissipates energy instead of radiating it.  That is also basic physics.  To 
>> a lesser extent, current distributed over a longer length is a more 
>> effective radiator than a shorter length even disregarding impedance 
>> concerns.  Consequently, a short, lossy "load" is going to radiate less RF 
>> than a longer, less lossy "load".  Straighter is better than snaky.  All of 
>> that is fact.
>> 
>> Unless you have a very short counterpoise wire it is going to try to do a 
>> better job of radiating RF than the AX1 if you give it a chance.  Keep it as 
>> straight as possible and keep it clear of ground and other RF dissipating 
>> structures.
>> 
>> That doesn't mean that the AX1 isn't serving a very useful purpose. It is.  
>> It is allowing you to feed current into the "counterpoise" wire with a 
>> reasonable feedpoint impedance.  That's critical.  But it doesn't mean that 
>> the AX1 is doing the bulk of the radiating unless you aren't using a 
>> counterpoise at all.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.  73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/27/2019 2:29 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not saying that an elevated counterpoise won’t work with the AX1, just 
>>> that I’m having trouble getting my head around considering the wire as the 
>>> main radiator, and the AX1 as a counterpoise???
>>> 
>>> Grant NQ5T
>>> KX3 (8342)/KXPA100
>>> 
>>> 
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