We've been mining this thread for gems, of which there are many. Thanks to all 
who have contributed pragmatic observations, bold suggestions, and wistful 
memories. 

Happy holidays to all.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Dec 23, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> wrote:
> 
> Well put.  Totally agree.
> 
> Bill
> 920-421-1172
> 
> ________________________________
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on 
> behalf of Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2019 10:37:15 PM
> To: David Gilbert <xda...@cis-broadband.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reaching Across the Chronological Divide
> 
> I think we need to be focusing on the personal aspect of one on one
> communications with someone who we have never met - without the need for
> the internet, Facebook or any other internet app.
> It is a thrill to me to be able to have a conversation with someone new
> via ham radio.
> 
> Of course, even that element is fading out in ham radio with the
> emphasis on quick DX contacts or contest points.  Ragchewing with
> someone new to get to know something about them personally or their
> location is what gives me the thrill of ham radio.  So sad to see that
> element being diminished.
> 
> Bring ragchewing back, and I am not talking about the nets on 80 and 40
> meters, it is reaching out to someone new and telling a bit about
> ourselves and getting the same in return.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/22/2019 11:17 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>> 
>> I think we already discussed that aspect, and the point is that young
>> people with a technological inclination are far more likely to be
>> interested in software, or robotics, or biomedical ... stuff that has
>> more relevance to advancing the world and actually leading to a job.  It
>> might be a challenge to bounce a signal of the ionosphere but people
>> were doing that 100 years ago.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/22/2019 6:52 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
>>> There is a constant refrain about "communicating with far away
>>> places." No doubt that has been one attraction of our hobby. For
>>> myself, I was never particularly interested in "communicating." For me
>>> it was mastery of a technical environment. Communicating was just the
>>> proof that the environment had been mastered. Another way of saying
>>> this -maybe- is technology versus sociology. There are many
>>> traditional activities that have been replaced by more modern versions
>>> [eg, horses versus cars, walking versus bicycling, bow/arrow versus
>>> guns]. Yet, there is still interest in the "old way," because the
>>> earlier challenges remain in spite of more modern solutions. Getting a
>>> signal from my radio, out into the ether, bouncing it off the
>>> ionosphere, and back down on the other side is still a challenge.
>>> Satellite links and the internet don't negate the ionospheric
>>> challenge. Perhaps engaging prospective hams in the technical
>>> challenges of the hobby will brings in those who like such challenges.
>>> Communicating may be the benny on the other side of mastery.
>>> 
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