No chance hihihihihi :-) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 22:18 An: Peter Kaletsch <pkalet...@kaletsch-gmbh.de> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible
marry a ham! :-) Sent from my iPad > On Jun 9, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Peter Kaletsch <pkalet...@kaletsch-gmbh.de> wrote: > > I agree, but I think that's a common issue for married hams! Happy > wife, happy live :-) > > 73, Peter > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 18:34 > An: Peter Kaletsch <pkalet...@kaletsch-gmbh.de> > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible > > i think your engineering challenge is primarily balancing esthetics against > performance. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 9, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Peter Kaletsch <pkalet...@kaletsch-gmbh.de> >> wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Thanks a lot for all answers and information! Some I still have to read more >> accurate ana translate some special parts, because, as you can obviously >> read from my post, my English is horrible. >> >> I tend - and of course my wife does - to have a fixed installation. So >> extendable fiberglass masts or something like this is not the solution we >> are searching for. >> >> I will think about all suggestions, try some of them and report later this >> year, if there are any reporting worth solutions. We take over the boat >> during the next 2 weeks and after that, there is a lot of other marine stuff >> to do, before focusing on ham radio on board). >> >> Further answer are highly welcomed >> >> >> 73, Peter >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Kurt Pawlikowski [mailto:ku...@pinrod.com] >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 03:16 >> An: Peter Kaletsch <pkalet...@kaletsch-gmbh.de>; >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 working on motorboats - possible >> >> Peter, >> >> In general, any vertical works lots better with more radials. As fresh >> water is a fairly poor conductor, the more the merrier! >> Unfortunately, because most boats are wooden/fiberglass, what you can >> add helps. I don't know if they have to be 1/4 wavelength (I've read >> yes and some say at least 0.20 wavelength). For HF, this would be >> some serious lengths for most boats! I expect you'd have to load them >> similar to the vertical element, but I haven't read anything >> regarding loading >> radials: It's just a guess. I suppose one could attempt to replicate, to >> some extent, a solid ground plane with foil or some other conductor (maybe >> chicken wire?). It would seem a lot of work (and probably is!). >> If you're insistent on a vertical, it's a narrow field of variability. >> Some of the portable antenna's can make loaded dipoles or verticals, which >> would operate fairly well without a ground plane. Another option might be a >> magnetic loop (which doesn't care much about "ground" per se. >> It is affected by near-by conductors, tunes very narrowly, and is big >> (compared to a mobile vertical). So, whatever you choose, it's all some sort >> of compromise. >> >> kurtt WB9FMC >> >>>> On 6/8/2020 3:47 PM, Peter Kaletsch wrote: >>> Hello fellows; >>> >>> You are my last hope as I cannot imagine that I am the only one in the >>> world who wants to try that. >>> >>> For many months I have been trying in vain to get tips on how to operate a >>> K3 well on a small 13 meter motor yacht. I am talking about fresh water >>> usage (Lake Garda in Italy), not salt water, and of a GFK built boat. >>> >>> A dipole is eliminated, it is not a sailing boat. I thought of using a >>> Tarheel Antenna, but the manufacturer advised me against it. >>> >>> So normal, shortened mobile antennas, mounted on the device carrier, where >>> also the antenna for marine radio is located, should point the way ...? >>> >>> But how do I get a reasonably effective earth? I read a lot of negative >>> things about ground plates - fast growth, the hull has to be pierced. >>> >>> I have already considered laying radials from the antenna base below deck >>> in the invisible area, but will this work...? >>> >>> I am very grateful for every tip and every help - also to >>> pkalet...@kaletsch-gmbh.de >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> Peter - DL1MDZ >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Peter Kaletsch GmbH | Fürstenrieder Straße 275 | 81377 München | Tel: >>> +49 (0) 89 / 89 60 93 - 0 | Fax: +49 (0) 89 / 89 60 93 - 99 | >>> i...@kaletsch-gmbh.de | Handelsregisternummer HRB 108093 | Amtsgericht >>> Muenchen | Steuer-Nr: 143/170/40017 | Geschäftsführer: Peter Kaletsch | >>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: München | Hinweis / reference: >>> Die Inhalte dieser Nachricht dürfen nur für die beabsichtigten Zwecke >>> verwendet werden. 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