Thanks Chris!

Now that I know what questions to ask, I may be able to solve this 
problem!

I do not know how Sympatico expects OE to be configured but the guy I was 
talking to (the third in a row - I had to keep asking for someone who 
could answer my questions), seemed to think any of the big three apps 
could do it - not sure how - he did say Sympatico was POP and smtp 
compatible. (I haven't paid enough attention over the years to know about 
connection modes.)

FYI a friend's tech saavy son did tell me that Sympatico (the internet 
branch of Canada's equivalent to AT&T - they own all the original phone 
lines in these parts) had a more sophisticated set up than the smaller 
companies and that they did indeed have DSL rather than ADSL - he said 
their DSL does not share the same line as another company's ADSL would - 
which is why they would have assured me that I could use their service 
with no fear of disconnection.  Perhaps he was wrong, however - I now 
know to ask _them_  specifically why they can say that.

Also, I told _my_  ISP tech support person about my tricky Apple modem (I 
have to use the 34k option if I want to be sure I am not disconnected) 
and the fact that I can hear faint voices if I dial one number and listen 
to the line (supposedly the sign of a "dirty line") and he said (after 
going off several times to relay my questions to someone else) that he 
could NOT assure me that I could use their service with no fear of 
disconnection - he said the dirty lines would make the disconnection 
problem _worse_.  Again, thanks to your advice, I can ask someone else at 
the ISP more specific questions.  

Anyway, thanks again for the info.  Hopefully I can find tech support 
people at the ISP's concerned who can discuss this further as well as you!


Tannis 


>>I am considering their DSL service but their technical help person 
>>couldn't tell me whether Emailer would be able to "pull" the spam folder 
>>(into which Sympatico files all mail they consider to be spam)directly 
>>into my Emailer database.  Most email programs of his acquaintance can 
>>synch up in this way but he had never heard of Emailer.  If Emailer 
>>can't, I would be obliged to continually check the site's folder for 
>>misdirects.
>>
>>My present ISP tags items and they download along with the rest of my 
>>mail - Emailer has been set up to file them accordingly. Unfortunately, 
>>Sympatico separates them out and puts them into a separate folder on the 
>>server.
>
>How does Sympatico say you have to configure Outlook Express to collect 
>mail from this other folder? Are they expecting their cutomers to all 
>switch to IMAP email clients?
>
>> I am considering Sympatico because they have a DSL connection and my 
>>ISP's cheaper high speed (1500bps) connection uses ASDL which I 
>>understand may be a problem as my phones lines are somewhat "dirty" and I 
>>sometimes get bumped from a 48bps connection. I might be more inclined to 
>>stay with them if I could be confident that the ASDL would work as well 
>>as the DSL.
>
>Chances are, Sympatico also does ADSL. DSL is really xDSL, ie: DSL is 
>just a shortened term for a version of DSL that has another leading 
>letter. 99% of residential DSL providers are doing ADSL. Unless Sympatico 
>is offering you SDSL or IDSL then you would get a new phone line with the 
>DSL service.
>
>Check with your current ISP and ask them if your line qualifies. A 
>"dirty" phone line for dialup doesn't mean it won't work just fine with 
>DSL. Also, are you sure your dialup problem is the line? Many 56k modems 
>will have handshake problems even over good lines. So it may not be the 
>line, it may just be a problem between your brand modem and your ISPs 
>modem pool. One thing you can do to get around it is downgrade your modem 
>to a 33.6 speed (you can do it thru AT commands, most 56k modem providers 
>offer an alternate modem profile that will force 33.6 connections). That 
>will help avoid the disconnects, but at the expense of a lower speed.
>
>And of course, even if it IS a line problem, and even if the line problem 
>effects the DSL, it may only effect it by causing a lower connect speed. 
>Rather than the advertised 1500k, you might only get 1200k or 700k. 
>That's probably still worth it compared to an unstable 48k dialup 
>connection.
>
>And finally, if it is a line problem, like I listed above, unless 
>Sympatico is using a type of DSL service that requires a line of its own, 
>then they too will have the same problems as your current ISP.
>
>-chris
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