Hello EBo, My comments are in-line below... On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, EBo <e...@sandien.com> wrote:
> Dear Neil, > > No worrier here. I was jut really trying to gauge if you were trying > to be so or if I was just being overly sensitive. I think it was the > latter, so think noting of it. The folks here put a lot of sweat, > tears, and occasionally even a little blood into their work. There is > also a bit of history with at least 4 different companies that I know of > engaging us in one way or another over the decades, and most of the > interactions ended with less than pleasant memories so there are > sensitive places here and there. Like I said, it was not intentional so > no worries. > I understand, it is also hard to judge the intent when you are typing instead of talking, so much inflection is lost. Also, I am guilty of going straight to the point, so that is sometimes abrupt. What I will say is that the Linuxcnc project and the associated people are a really fantastic thing! HAL is a true masterpiece of work, it is far superior to any other approach I have ever seen. And behind great work like that are great people, otherwise it would not be possible, so thank you to everyone that contributed to this project! > > You have a nice vision of things. It is different than many of us, and > if you are willing to roll up your sleeves and help (which it sounds > like you are) then we can either find a way to integrate it or to help > with a fork. Even that is likely to cause some grumbling because > inevitably someone reaches out for help from us on one of these > off-shoots, and it ends up draining time and resources we would > otherwise use to focus on our own projects. > > When I mentioned fork, I was only talking about forking Gmoccapy and closely related things within the same project. (Not forking Linuxcnc.) All I am really pushing for is a new UI that works properly in an embedded system, that is optional to use like any other UI. Any changes made to anything outside of the UI would be done in a way that it does not disturb anything existing. Basically, I was thinking that I would copy the gmoccapy directory to another name, and move in a different direction. I am stuck on names, so far, I have called it "embedded". If anyone has any objections to this, or a better name, I am all ears. > One of the key things we need to discuss is if your approach to things > (like different OS, new interfaces, etc.) will integrate into the > existing infrastructure, or if you are going to try to convince us that > something else is better. We are all open to new things, but for us to > uproot any underlying assumptions will take a lot of effort on your part > to get the ball rolling and to convince us of any benefits. > The idea here is to be as non disruptive as possible. The whole idea of running it under my distro is completely optional. By the way, my distro is called LinuxInside. I normally do not release it as a general purpose OS. I include it on appliances, and the source and packages are available from the websites of the products. -Neil- > > I look forward to looking at the code. I hope I will have time to look > into when it comes along, and I wish you the best of luck with your > project. > > EBo -- > > On Dec 26 2015 11:51 AM, Neil Whelchel wrote: > > Hello EBo, > > I have never intended to be insulting or demanding in any of my > > posts. If > > it appears that way, I apologize. If you would like to point out what > > seems > > that way to you, I will re-phrase it so that it is not that way, and > > I will > > avoid using such wording in the future. > > I am working on posting all of my code on my website, I expect to > > have it > > up in a day or so. I am also asking the developers of Linuxcnc for > > advice > > as to what the best way to make the code available and contribute the > > changes I have made. > > -Neil- > > > > > >> I would ask you though to not be insulting and demeaning in your > >> comments. If you are then I, and probably others, will likely stop > >> reading what you write and it will end up in another big kerfuffle. > >> You > >> have what appears on the face of it to have some good ideas. If you > >> want us to take them seriously and maybe even help, then show us the > >> code, and don't insult us for decisions made a decade before most of > >> us > >> even got involved with LCNC. > >> > >> EBo -- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Emc-developers mailing list > >> Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
