Rich and others, Here is what the Listing Mark Data Page says in one of our FUS books for a piece of Listed ITE equipment that was Listed to UL 1950. Note number 3 below stating that you can use the File Number or the Control Number. By the way we create our own Listing Mark labels using the downloadable Listing Marks from the UL website and a label maker and software combination manufactured by Brady.
PROCUREMENT All Listing Marks shall be obtained from a supplier authorized by Underwriters Laboratories Inc. unless the Listing Mark is molded, cast, die-stamped, rubber stamped, silk screened or reproduced by the manufacturer. COMPOSITION AND ELEMENTS 1. UL in circle symbol 2. The word "LISTED" 3. The assigned control number(s) or the Applicant/Listee's File Number 4. Product identity. Consists of the following: "UL 1950", "NWGQ", "INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT", INFO. TECH. EQUIP.", or "I.T.E." In addition, the name or the specific type of product as shown on the individual Listing (i.e. 'ADDING MACHINE", "CALCULATOR", "PRINTER", "PERSONAL COMPUTER", etc.) may also be noted. If the first three elements are directly applied to the product by die-stamping, ink-stamping, silk screening, molding, etching, or similar processes, or if they are part of a nameplate which includes either the electrical rating or the catalog or model designation, the product identity may appear elsewhere on the product. Minimum size is not specified as long as the Listing Mark is legible. The first three elements shall be in close proximity. SEPARABLE LISTING MARK If separable Listing Marks are employed, all four elements are required to be part of the sticker, label, decal, etc. (A separable Listing Mark is one which bears only the Listing Mark information and is separately applied.) Kurt Andrews Compliance Engineer Tracewell Systems, Inc. 567 Enterprise Drive Westerville, Ohio 43081 voice: 614.846.6175 toll free: 800.848.4525 fax: 614.846.7791 http://www.tracewellsystems.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:41 AM To: 'Rich Nute'; rpick...@hypercom.com Cc: chris.maxw...@nettest.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate. Rich, For ITE, the file number may be used in lieu of control number. I will be glad to provide a memo from UL Labels Department regarding this issue. This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. PETER S. MERGUERIAN Technical Director I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022 Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019 Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175 -----Original Message----- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:09 AM To: rpick...@hypercom.com Cc: chris.maxw...@nettest.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate. Hi Ron: > 1. UL in a circle (the famous UL Listing mark symbol), > 2. The word "LISTED" in capital letters, > 3. The assigned control number*, and > 4. Product identity (e.g., NWGQ, I.T.E., etc.) > > * The assigned control number is a designation that UL assigns to a manufacturer, or manufacuring > location (I have also seen UL file numbers used here, although I'm not sure that UL objects to > that). The file number cannot replace the control number. The control number is always required. The file number can replace the manufacturer's name, or can be used in addition to the manufacturer's name. > So, given the above and IMHO, I would say that just a generic UL Listing mark would neither be > acceptable nor authorized by UL. However, I recommend contacting UL for their official position on > the use of their Listing mark. The generic UL mark (the UL in a circle -- without the other three items) may be used in advertising or on the product carton. I believe UL has some guidelines for this use. Best regards, Rich ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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