Precisely. And Figure 2 hasn’t changed, in terms of the general layout of how table-top equipment is laid out in a shield room, since well before MIL-STD-462 (1967), going back to at least MIL-I-6181B, from 1953. Note that MIL-I-6181B implies the existence of MIL-I-6181 and MIL-I-6181A, but I’m too lazy to dig through them to ascertain if the set-up in those was similar or not. And MIL-I-6181 was just one of several Service-unique specifications covering EMI limits and test methods, and they were all quite similar. In particular, all the testing of tabletop equipment was performed on ground planes in shield rooms, and the ground plane was directly attached to the shield room wall behind it.
As an aside, if you look at shielded enclosures of the pre-MIL-STD-461-era, they tend to be remarkably similar in size: close to twenty feet wide, only about eight feet deep and high. The reason for that was that dipole antennas were used from roughly 30 MHz to 1 GHz, and a 30 MHz dipole is 5 meters long, and there was a required clearance between the dipole tips and the walls. But the dipole only needed to be one foot removed from the test sample, not one meter, as per MIL-STD-461. There was no technical need for absorber, and no requirement. And of course the dipole could only be deployed horizontally, so eight feet sufficed for depth and height. So from 1953 – 1967 everyone understood how to do this test, and all the figures in MIL-STD-462 (1967) simply carry this practice forward: the ground plane is backed up to the shield room wall behind it. This is figures 1, 2, CE01-1, CE02-1, RE04-2, and the other tests just showed details of the set-up, with the ground plane up against the shield room wall either implied or explicitly stated. Because there was no requirement for absorber in 1967 and earlier, absorber would have been the exception, not the rule. So the major change with respect to previous practice in MIL-STD-462D (1993) was the mandatory use of absorber, and as Ed has pointed out, that is going to drive either a deeper ground plane, or longer bond straps between the ground plane and wall or floor than previously necessary, but it doesn’t change the fact that in the vast majority of chambers, to make the room’s footprint as small as possible, that means the ground plane backs up to the wall. The point of all the above, and my previous posts on the same subject, is that what is being asserted to be an error or inconsistency is something which has been accepted practice for well over a half-century. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 ________________________________ From: Cortland Richmond <k...@earthlink.net> List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:07:06 -0400 To: <emc-p...@ieee.org> Subject: Re: RE102 Vertical Ground Plane Hard to make a shielded room without walls. Cortland Richmond KA5S (opinions mine,not my employer's) On 8/30/2011 4:52 AM, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: And Figures 2 and 3 of the Figures 1 through 5 clearly show a vertical back plane with the tabletop horizontal ground plane bonded to it (or at least it implies a vertical back plane). It is either a vertical back plane or the floor back plane bent up at a 90 degree angle. If there wasn't any confusion since 1993 then there should have been. : ) The equipment I have is tabletop equipment to be mounted below the water line (i.e., below deck). The reference is to Figures 1 through 5 (all of them), not just Figure 1. Bob Heller St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651-778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 ================================= - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>