ok - that is not rigid tapping.  In rigid tapping - the tap holder is 
rigid - no movement in or out.  Emc2 tracks the spindle thru the reversal 
and back out using a quadrature encoder with index.  At all times the axis 
motion is synced with the spindle.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JCEwlfJj__A

that is a tap held in a Jacobs chuck. (no movement)  (and yes - it was done 
in metal also :))  We wish we would have recorded that.  You can read about 
it here.
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/gcode/main/index.html#SECTION00340000000000000000

Sam

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Blackmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information


> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:57:37 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>sam sokolik wrote:
>>> really - I was in on a converstion with art at the cncworkshop - he had 
>>> said
>>> he thought mach would probably never do rigid tapping.
>
> He's known to be wrong on occasion <G>.
>
>>> Could you explain?  I could see if you had the spindle setup as a rotory
>>> axis...  but other than that I have no clue.  Maybe some external 
>>> hardware -
>>> doing it outside of mach?    (I am not a mach person).
>
> The spindle is set up as a spindle. The feed/speed is at the thread
> pitch for rigid, at 95% pitch for an expanding nose tapping head.
>
>>Yes, if they use one pulse per rev in a single-channel sensor,
>>then Mach can't know which way the spindle is turning.
>
> It knows because you told it either M3 or M4 - everything doesn't "have"
> to be complicated.
>
>>You have
>>to have a quadrature encoder with index to do it properly.  And,
>>you need much more than one pulse per rev so the Z axis can keep
>>up with the rapid speed change when the spindle reverses.
>
> Define "properly" - I've done it, and somebody else wrote recently they
> have been rigid tapping regularly with Mach. Nobody told them they
> couldn't - so they did.
>
> I tap on a regular basis but not strictly rigid fashion - I use an
> extending nose tapper "Tapmatic SM4". It works fine. Through hole is
> easier than blind hole, but spiral point taps are pretty much essential.
> But I also remember all those people, including Art, who told me years
> ago that you couldn't do lathe threading with only one pulse per rev ;)
>
>
> Steve Blackmore
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