Sounds like you are saying you want me not to teach this class. On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 19:03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Ray. > It is right there are people with different interest and level. > There are two points that I want to make. > 1. there are some help such as G code use that is possible to get everyway > –any 2 years colleges will offer that. Why need spend valuable time of > Fest on it? > Help with development of EMC2 is impossible to get, and nobody offers - > only one time in year and at EMC Fest. > 2. I am sure that need establish on line school about EMC2 to learn about > EMC2 year long and not a one week a year. > > Thanks > Aram > > > > > The class I outlined is intended for folk a bit like you were a couple > > years ago. In fact I drew it back further into newbie than that class. > > My "ideal" student for these sessions is someone who wants to make parts > > with EMC rather than someone who wants to make machines that run with > > EMC. > > > > There is certainly a need for work on what I tend to call integration > > but I wasn't prepared to offer a daily outline of what that might be > > just yet. Once we open up the machine integration topic we have a range > > of material from Stepconf for steppers to hand written and edited config > > file sets that include complex kinematics. Classes would need to > > include "The Language of HAL," "The Language of PyVCP, the Language of > > Conf, and Ladder Language." > > > > Formal workshop classes are difficult when self-selected folk who cover > > a wide range of abilities and prior knowledge are included. This > > workshop environment makes teaching advanced material much more > > difficult than it is in a formal school setting. > > > > When CNC-Workshop spun off from what we were doing at the NAMES show, I > > thought it was really important to pre-plan projects for folk to get > > involved with. The Mazak V-5 was my first and Roland was willing to > > sacrifice it. In that project I found that folk who already knew how, > > did the most of the work. It was great learning because we needed to > > prove to ourselves that EMC2 could run production machines and that we > > were capable of the code and integration work that make these kinds of > > machines fully functional. (I'm using we in the sense of all of us on > > the lists, on IRC, ....) > > > > These days, with the ability to run big multi-axis machines with > > non-trivial kinematics well established, I think folk come to the EMC2 > > with ideas about their own projects. The EMC2 is the only production > > quality software capable of such a wide range of application. > > > > Your recent post about a very precise grinder is an example of someone > > coming to the software with a machine idea. IMO your biggest problem > > with that machine is mechanical backlash not software or configuration. > > Such a machine could easily be set up with any current CNC software > > package. Roland faced a similar mechanical backlash issue a few years > > back with his skate grinder. Backlash would have killed most machines > > for the purpose since it had to be accurate to a few tenths over the > > length of the skate and some arcs were ground with a radius of more than > > a meter. He came up with what I thought was an innovative solution. > > > > What these kind of projects and folk need is very focused self study > > with a bit of guidance. IMO an apprentice teaching model is much more > > effective than is structured coursework once you get beyond a very basic > > level. That Apprentice/master model is what I'm hearing quite a few of > > our folk offering. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Rayh > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 22:01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hi > >> I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 > >> Is this programming with G code? > >> I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every > >> community college. Help in G code programming is every way. > >> What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special > >> G > >> code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To > >> learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. > >> Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 > >> and > >> it is EMC2 fest. > >> I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and > >> use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should > >> be > >> applied to on line school! > >> > >> Thanks > >> Aram > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Hi Dale > >> > > >> > I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together > >> > into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. > >> > > >> > My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. > >> > Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. > >> > Tuesday -- EMC2 operator interfaces > >> > Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 > >> > Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 > >> > Friday -- Part programming assistants > >> > > >> > Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each > >> > day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. > >> > > >> > I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab > >> during > >> > the week. > >> > > >> > Ray > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: > >> >> Hello, > >> >> > >> >> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? > >> >> > >> >> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis > >> (xyzw+) > >> >> full size mill on EMC2. > >> >> > >> >> Thank you > >> >> Dale > >> >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > >> Try > >> >> it now. > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > >> >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. 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