The class I outlined is intended for folk a bit like you were a couple years ago. In fact I drew it back further into newbie than that class. My "ideal" student for these sessions is someone who wants to make parts with EMC rather than someone who wants to make machines that run with EMC.
There is certainly a need for work on what I tend to call integration but I wasn't prepared to offer a daily outline of what that might be just yet. Once we open up the machine integration topic we have a range of material from Stepconf for steppers to hand written and edited config file sets that include complex kinematics. Classes would need to include "The Language of HAL," "The Language of PyVCP, the Language of Conf, and Ladder Language." Formal workshop classes are difficult when self-selected folk who cover a wide range of abilities and prior knowledge are included. This workshop environment makes teaching advanced material much more difficult than it is in a formal school setting. When CNC-Workshop spun off from what we were doing at the NAMES show, I thought it was really important to pre-plan projects for folk to get involved with. The Mazak V-5 was my first and Roland was willing to sacrifice it. In that project I found that folk who already knew how, did the most of the work. It was great learning because we needed to prove to ourselves that EMC2 could run production machines and that we were capable of the code and integration work that make these kinds of machines fully functional. (I'm using we in the sense of all of us on the lists, on IRC, ....) These days, with the ability to run big multi-axis machines with non-trivial kinematics well established, I think folk come to the EMC2 with ideas about their own projects. The EMC2 is the only production quality software capable of such a wide range of application. Your recent post about a very precise grinder is an example of someone coming to the software with a machine idea. IMO your biggest problem with that machine is mechanical backlash not software or configuration. Such a machine could easily be set up with any current CNC software package. Roland faced a similar mechanical backlash issue a few years back with his skate grinder. Backlash would have killed most machines for the purpose since it had to be accurate to a few tenths over the length of the skate and some arcs were ground with a radius of more than a meter. He came up with what I thought was an innovative solution. What these kind of projects and folk need is very focused self study with a bit of guidance. IMO an apprentice teaching model is much more effective than is structured coursework once you get beyond a very basic level. That Apprentice/master model is what I'm hearing quite a few of our folk offering. Hope this helps Rayh On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 22:01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi > I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 > Is this programming with G code? > I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every > community college. Help in G code programming is every way. > What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special G > code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To > learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. > Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 and > it is EMC2 fest. > I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and > use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should be > applied to on line school! > > Thanks > Aram > > > > > > Hi Dale > > > > I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together > > into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. > > > > My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. > > Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. > > Tuesday -- EMC2 operator interfaces > > Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 > > Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 > > Friday -- Part programming assistants > > > > Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each > > day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. > > > > I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during > > the week. > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? > >> > >> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) > >> full size mill on EMC2. > >> > >> Thank you > >> Dale > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > >> it now. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. > >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > >> _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list > >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > > Don't miss this year's exciting event. 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