Hello Ray. It is right there are people with different interest and level. There are two points that I want to make. 1. there are some help such as G code use that is possible to get everyway any 2 years colleges will offer that. Why need spend valuable time of Fest on it? Help with development of EMC2 is impossible to get, and nobody offers - only one time in year and at EMC Fest. 2. I am sure that need establish on line school about EMC2 to learn about EMC2 year long and not a one week a year.
Thanks Aram > The class I outlined is intended for folk a bit like you were a couple > years ago. In fact I drew it back further into newbie than that class. > My "ideal" student for these sessions is someone who wants to make parts > with EMC rather than someone who wants to make machines that run with > EMC. > > There is certainly a need for work on what I tend to call integration > but I wasn't prepared to offer a daily outline of what that might be > just yet. Once we open up the machine integration topic we have a range > of material from Stepconf for steppers to hand written and edited config > file sets that include complex kinematics. Classes would need to > include "The Language of HAL," "The Language of PyVCP, the Language of > Conf, and Ladder Language." > > Formal workshop classes are difficult when self-selected folk who cover > a wide range of abilities and prior knowledge are included. This > workshop environment makes teaching advanced material much more > difficult than it is in a formal school setting. > > When CNC-Workshop spun off from what we were doing at the NAMES show, I > thought it was really important to pre-plan projects for folk to get > involved with. The Mazak V-5 was my first and Roland was willing to > sacrifice it. In that project I found that folk who already knew how, > did the most of the work. It was great learning because we needed to > prove to ourselves that EMC2 could run production machines and that we > were capable of the code and integration work that make these kinds of > machines fully functional. (I'm using we in the sense of all of us on > the lists, on IRC, ....) > > These days, with the ability to run big multi-axis machines with > non-trivial kinematics well established, I think folk come to the EMC2 > with ideas about their own projects. The EMC2 is the only production > quality software capable of such a wide range of application. > > Your recent post about a very precise grinder is an example of someone > coming to the software with a machine idea. IMO your biggest problem > with that machine is mechanical backlash not software or configuration. > Such a machine could easily be set up with any current CNC software > package. Roland faced a similar mechanical backlash issue a few years > back with his skate grinder. Backlash would have killed most machines > for the purpose since it had to be accurate to a few tenths over the > length of the skate and some arcs were ground with a radius of more than > a meter. He came up with what I thought was an innovative solution. > > What these kind of projects and folk need is very focused self study > with a bit of guidance. IMO an apprentice teaching model is much more > effective than is structured coursework once you get beyond a very basic > level. That Apprentice/master model is what I'm hearing quite a few of > our folk offering. > > Hope this helps > > Rayh > > > > On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 22:01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hi >> I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 >> Is this programming with G code? >> I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every >> community college. Help in G code programming is every way. >> What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special >> G >> code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To >> learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. >> Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 >> and >> it is EMC2 fest. >> I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and >> use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should >> be >> applied to on line school! >> >> Thanks >> Aram >> >> >> > >> > Hi Dale >> > >> > I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together >> > into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. >> > >> > My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. >> > Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. >> > Tuesday -- EMC2 operator interfaces >> > Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 >> > Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 >> > Friday -- Part programming assistants >> > >> > Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each >> > day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. >> > >> > I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab >> during >> > the week. >> > >> > Ray >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? >> >> >> >> I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis >> (xyzw+) >> >> full size mill on EMC2. >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> Dale >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. >> Try >> >> it now. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. 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